Would Strip til drills work in an organic situation?

[Grower Tesque]

I was in the pub the other night talking to an organic farmer, the subject turned to drills and we were wondering whether strip til drills have a place on an organic farm with grass keys in arable rotation.
My concern would be that there wouldn’t be enough cultural control of the grasses and would build problems.
Anyone doing it successfully on here? How do you do it?

 

[Wigeon]

I was in the pub the other night talking to an organic farmer, the subject turned to drills and we were wondering whether strip til drills have a place on an organic farm with grass keys in arable rotation.
My concern would be that there wouldn’t be enough cultural control of the grasses and would build problems.
Anyone doing it successfully on here? How do you do it?

Possibly, but I once tried strip tilling wheat in to an established clover and ryegrass organic ley. Used a proper strip till machine, not a claydon/mzuri type.

Was a total failure unfortunately, as ryegrass just too strong.

 

[Jsmith2211]

Might become a lot more prevalent a question when they ban roundup…

 

[L P]

John Pawsey with system chameleon? Good farmer, probably doest actually strip till, but inter row hoes his land with same machine. Honestly I don't think straight strip till will work organically. Establishment is remarkably easy, controlling competition is not!
Edit... I'm not defeatist, I think it could work into clover with a very wide control band, 1" clover to 8" seed row, but the seed row needs to be tilled plenty prior to planting. You could produce a great system but currently it's just too dear to justify and develop for most of us.

 

[Wigeon]

John Pawsey with system chameleon? Good farmer, probably doest actually strip till, but inter row hoes his land with same machine. Honestly I don't think straight strip till will work organically. Establishment is remarkably easy, controlling competition is not!
Edit... I'm not defeatist, I think it could work into clover with a very wide control band, 1" clover to 8" seed row, but the seed row needs to be tilled plenty prior to planting. You could produce a great system but currently it's just too dear to justify and develop for most of us.

This is pretty much exactly what I tried to do. Tried all the fancy dedicated strip till machines, and none of them did enough to provide a competition-free strip.