Yet more BBC bias

[egbert]

My missus tells me she just heard a guest on t'radio 2 show assure listeners it was better to eat turkey at Chrimbo than beef or lamb...because of the carbon footprint.
(I've nought against turkey farmers, but this is so obviously bollix)

Then right now came a half ersed apology due to a large number of immediate complaints (well done those who phoned straight in)

But still the lie was left unchallenged. (you can't expect the presenters to know every detail...but given it has now reached the 'norm' to say such things, shouldn't they be more on it)

I don't understand why my industry representatives/levy boards aren't bringing lawsuits. The guest has just defamed me and mine, reinforcing an oft repeated lie.

 

[Farfrae]

Funny how I've never seen anyone here complaining about the BBC's anti Palestine, Russian, Chinese or even Corbyn bias. Seems it's only bias if it personally affects you.

Problem with all the mainstream media is who controls the narrative, there is no such thing as independent reporting. If someone sends the BBC a press release to say it's raining and another sends one to say it's sunny they should be poking their head of the window and telling us which is true, not quoting the one that's fits their agenda.

 

[Treg]

Science seems to have moved on , even the original scientist that claimed livestock were more damaging to the atmosphere than transport has said he got his calculations wrong & regrets publishing his papers, because as he said at a recent speech in California " once it's out there it's hard to take it back "
Also the science behind eating less meat for health reasons has recently also shown to be wrong .
So why still the push to reduce Beef?
The European food agency has made it clear that its about a handful of multinational firms that are trying to influence the way people eat.
They don't want Beef & Lamb farmers spending their money locally, it's about more industrialised farming with high inputs that multinationals can make money out of.
They want full control of Agriculture from seed to plate & they don't care what they destroy in their quest for increased profits.

 

[topground]

Breakfast on BBC this morning featuring an article by a DEFRA 'scientist' vegan parroting the eat less meat to save the planet mantra. Joseph Goebbels was right when he said repeat a lie often enough and the people will believe it. There will be a generation of impressionable young women who are taken in by vegan propaganda and avoid meat and dairy who will have long term health problems, particularly fertility and then osteoporosis after the menopause.
It takes millennia of evolution to change the physiology of a species to adapt to a radical change in diet. Omnivore to herbivore in a generation is not a healthy option.

 

[fudge]

Eat less meat is just a distraction from the real issue of fossil fuel dependence. Vested interests have too much to lose not to be grasping at straws. Unfortunately they have their man in the White House so the lies will keep coming.

 

[Short_Angus]

My missus tells me she just heard a guest on t'radio 2 show assure listeners it was better to eat turkey at Chrimbo than beef or lamb...because of the carbon footprint.
(I've nought against turkey farmers, but this is so obviously bollix)

Then right now came a half ersed apology due to a large number of immediate complaints (well done those who phoned straight in)

But still the lie was left unchallenged. (you can't expect the presenters to know every detail...but given it has now reached the 'norm' to say such things, shouldn't they be more on it)

I don't understand why my industry representatives/levy boards aren't bringing lawsuits. The guest has just defamed me and mine, reinforcing an oft repeated lie.

Heard it myself. She said beef and lamb has 4 times the carbon footprint of turkey

 

[nick...]

The problem with the planet is probably 20% too many people.
Nick...

 

[Short_Angus]

Funny how I've never seen anyone here complaining about the BBC's anti Palestine, Russian, Chinese or even Corbyn bias. Seems it's only bias if it personally affects you

What's funny about it, this is a farming forum after all.

 

[Guiggs]

Why are farmers or anybody working in or around our countryside still paying tv tax and bankrolling their shite??
F**k the BBC!

 

[Boysground]

Breakfast on BBC this morning featuring an article by a DEFRA 'scientist' vegan parroting the eat less meat to save the planet mantra. Joseph Goebbels was right when he said repeat a lie often enough and the people will believe it. There will be a generation of impressionable young women who are taken in by vegan propaganda and avoid meat and dairy who will have long term health problems, particularly fertility and then osteoporosis after the menopause.
It takes millennia of evolution to change the physiology of a species to adapt to a radical change in diet. Omnivore to herbivore in a generation is not a healthy option.

Our doctor is also a friend, she says that she is seeing more and more cases of illness due to malnutrition than ever. This is entirely in the new veggie/ vegan population. They are not eating properly and getting issues with deficiencies.

bg

 

[Bury the Trash]

No one else covers music in a good way like they do.

So why not , not pay the fee and just watch or listen to the good bits

Tbh I was surprised that Cerys Matthews was on as a guest the other day and in conversation ' not advocating' meat but then I suppose she gets a wage from them for doing a bit of DJ work as well.

 

[roscoe erf]

The problem with the plant is probably 20% too many people.
Nick...

this is the only issue over population the rest is just trimmings

 

[Clive]

What’s are the numbers for turkey vs beef ? I thought poultry was lower carbon / more efficient meat to be honest ?

 

[Bury the Trash]

What’s are the numbers for turkey vs beef ? I thought poultry was lower carbon / more efficient meat to be honest ?

Yes better Fcr.
Probaly pigs are even better in that way as well, not as good as fish farming tho..

 

[Clive]

Yes better Fcr.
Probaly pigs are even better in that way as well, not as good as fish farming tho..

so farmers were calling in telling them they were wrong even though they were right ?

That makes us look a bit silly !

 

[GeorgeK]

so farmers were calling in telling them they were wrong even though they were right ?

That makes us look a bit silly !

As always there's never a simple answer like the 'experts' have us believe. Grass fed, extensive UK systems can be very beneficial to the environment

They will drive UK farmers out of business, all food will be imported and there will be no control whatsoever over how it's produced. Think Trump or Putin will take any notice of how the BBC wants farming to be done when they are supplying all our food? Doubt it!

 

[delilah]

Don't worry about it. The AHDB have taken out an advert on the back page of the bumper edition Christmas Radio Times, pointing out the environmental benefits of eating British beef and lamb over the festive season.

 

[Exfarmer]

so farmers were calling in telling them they were wrong even though they were right ?

That makes us look a bit silly !

The carbon footprint of beef depends on the production methods, and as always those promoting an argument will use the worst case scenario, so the anti beef brigade use the figures for producing beef on a feedlot in Brazil against a turkey raised in the Mid West USA with grain and soya on its doorstep.
However start comparing Pork raised on an outdoor unit here and lamb which spent its whole life on a Welsh hillside and we have an entirely different set of figures

 

[nick...]

Don't worry about it. The AHDB have taken out an advert on the back page of the bumper edition Christmas Radio Times, pointing out the environmental benefits of eating British beef and lamb over the festive season.

Oh that will be all right then
Nick...

 

[Muck Spreader]

What’s are the numbers for turkey vs beef ? I thought poultry was lower carbon / more efficient meat to be honest ?

It's not what is being produced it's how, that makes all the difference.