And there are farms that refuse to load after 5 pm, or before 8am. Or, as one haulier told me, a farmer had gone off combining despite an agreed loading time, and made him wait 2 hours.
Slow grain movement
- Thread starter Against_the_grain
- Start date
- Location
- Darlington
Woldgrain Storage
Member
- Location
- Hemswell, North Lincs
All going well so far.
It's usually a delicate balancing act between meeting members' expectations, haulage availability and what intake capacity is available. At the moment we are collecting with 48-72hrs notice.
Our fleet for members' tonnage is all subcontracted hauliers, coordinated by ourselves.
farmerm
Member
- Location
- Shropshire
I had 90T old crop wheat that I was promised would be moved this week... its lunch time Friday and there is still 70T preventing me clearing and then cleaning the grain shed which I need to do before I can start combining new crop 
So it is almost a relief that the weather forecast remains crap for next week
So it is almost a relief that the weather forecast remains crap for next week 
- Location
- Berkshire
The same story here, I'm always keen to load out of hours as my Loader is pretty busy.
Hauliers are appreciative and comment that they struggle to load out of hours on most farms outside of harvest, I was baffled by this given the nature of our job !!
Gerbert
Member
- Location
- Dutch biblebelt
€70 an hour for a curtainsider or another simple trailer, 35 m3 tanker about the same. Not that bad I'd think.
- Location
- south norfolk
Still got some barley in the shed which I need to store wheat.was told by buyer it would be gone last week but still here Monday and 3 loads to go.fixings for tues and wed.one load tues and rest wed but no show and after calling told thurs and Friday.nothing again yesterday and one load today after a rant from me.now told last load will be Monday but I’m not holding my breath.what really annoys me is no one tells the truth and if you’re a small farmer like me we go to the bottom of the pile.
Nick...
Nick...
I agree 100% because its certainly not cheap storage
But its should be no surprise that through harvest there is not enough trucks to meet demand , maybe a case of overselling has occurred
Hanslope
Member
Which is exactly my scenario, harvest is on hold until I can get some lorries.
I think we've all but made the decision to build a new grain store in the winter.
Tbh all this supply chain partnership, premiums and added value spiel is of less importance than being able to get grain shifted promptly.
Hanslope
Member
Almost zero chance, at least at a reasonable value, so will have to retain.
- Location
- Suffolk
Feel free to come and have a look at our recent builds in Cavendish. Certainly changed the game for us. Although running our own lorries certainly helps but they are very busy at this time of year anyway.
The Insider
Member
- Location
- Near the King
And next year when the same merchant bids you 50p a tonne more than his competitors you won't be able to help yourself! When I first got involved in this game (mid-80s) the "as available" contract was defined as movement within 3 business days of seller's notification of readiness. Anything else was "buyers call" which was 3 days notice in the other direction. It worked, but that was when - despite the greater competition of many more merchants to trade with - there was a trading margin to be had. Nowadays we have a market that has been deliberately diminished and turned into supply chain, and thus little choice for the farmer but to take what he's given. Check your "as available" contract terms on the contract note from your high-powered international trading house or even your large-scale (un)cooperative - I bet it actually says it's buyers call after sellers notification of availability of the goods. Sadly having to refer to long form contract terms is something you're going to have to get used to. Then again, you could just deal with a local merchant with whom you can have the sort of relationship where you both make your trade knowing what is genuinely expected of eachother, and with a bit of human communication you can get the business executed in a timely and profitable fashion.
ollie989898
Member
If you want grain moved pronto, sort your own hauliers and pay them the rates they want. It is the only way to do it, I tried to avoid any kind of deal where I did not have control of the haulage.
Nearly
Member
- Location
- North of York
- Location
- Darlington
We used to do quite a lot of direct haulage for farmers we didn't get any more money than from the merchants and sometimes less, but they were good farms with excellent handling and communication and we used to make good money.
On a plus note, sold my OSR on an August contract, rang to say it was available Tuesday dinner time and the last load went at 5.30 tonight, only 3 loads but excellent service from UOS and Kettlewells transport.
yellow belly
Member
- Location
- south west lincolnshire
We deliver into Openfield with tractor trailer over 1000 tonnes last year
1 mile to but 5 miles return
The Insider
Member
- Location
- Near the King
A quick note on organising your own haulage, do have a go with rapeseed and sell it delivered because your quality premiums are calculated on your contract price, so in effect you get oil bonuses on the freight as well as the goods.
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