Slow grain movement

Flat 10

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Arable Farmer
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Fen Edge
I use a small independent merchant he came and sampled my winter barley , left an advance payment for it . I rang and sold it on Thursday 20 mins later haulier rang will be collecting it next Wednesday,Thursday and Friday get balance of money owed within the next week
Who gives advance payments?!?! Did he leave cash?
 
You heard correct, or at least 6 days, which is on par or a day worse than last year.

I bought into Camgrain on the basis of fast movement, 24 hours it was originally touted as. And it was very good, often lorries arrived within hours of making the call sometimes in less than half an hour.

IMO the whole Camgrain model and concept is built around fast harvest movement, take that away and you have a very expensive store. One I sadly couldn't recommend anymore.

Clearly haulage rates have to go up something I'd welcome if it means prompt service.
But yet they had a 4 page write up about them in the march 19, cop production magazine, one guy from Bidwells is trying to justify their costing against on farm storage, and says,
"With camgrain , there is the extra cost of haulage to the store, he notes, which amounts to about £6/ton of the operational charges, plus the facilities and level of management and staffing you simply wouldn't find on farm. these have benefits , which are hard to quantify but shouldn't be ignored, such as those that arise from the immediate collection of grain at harvest. Another guy says "Grain has been collected as and when required" So back in march they were still touting the fast movement of grain.
 

Hanslope

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But yet they had a 4 page write up about them in the march 19, cop production magazine, one guy from Bidwells is trying to justify their costing against on farm storage, and says,
"With camgrain , there is the extra cost of haulage to the store, he notes, which amounts to about £6/ton of the operational charges, plus the facilities and level of management and staffing you simply wouldn't find on farm. these have benefits , which are hard to quantify but shouldn't be ignored, such as those that arise from the immediate collection of grain at harvest. Another guy says "Grain has been collected as and when required" So back in march they were still touting the fast movement of grain.
What the Bidwell man missed was you need 7 days on Farm storage in the peak of harvest on top of Camgrain.

The 'Another guy' must only grow Winter Barley on his drought prone sand and Winter Beans on bottomless clay if he's been impressed with the speed of clearance.
 

ajd132

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Arable Farmer
Location
Suffolk
What the Bidwell man missed was you need 7 days on Farm storage in the peak of harvest on top of Camgrain.

The 'Another guy' must only grow Winter Barley on his drought prone sand and Winter Beans on bottomless clay if he's been impressed with the speed of clearance.
The best thing to do is offer them feedback and work with them to find a solution for the future. I have full faith it will be sorted.
 

Hanslope

Member
The best thing to do is offer them feedback and work with them to find a solution for the future. I have full faith it will be sorted.
Yes quite right, I'm sure there are many ways of improving the process.

At present finding anyone daft enough to buy your storage I think is all but impossible.

It should be and could be the opposite where there's a waiting list and it's prized for the service and strong prices achieved.

Must say the Camgrain staff are all excellent in my experience, so no slight on them.

I think there's needs to be strategic alliances with hauliers as much as cosying up to end users. All the fluffy words don't always translate into a premium over what you can achieve with off farm sales.
 

ajd132

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Arable Farmer
Location
Suffolk
Yes quite right, I'm sure there are many ways of improving the process.

At present finding anyone daft enough to buy your storage I think is all but impossible.

It should be and could be the opposite where there's a waiting list and it's prized for the service and strong prices achieved.

Must say the Camgrain staff are all excellent in my experience, so no slight on them.

I think there's needs to be strategic alliances with hauliers as much as cosying up to end users. All the fluffy words don't always translate into a premium over what you can achieve with off farm sales.
This thread will definitely have been read and taken on board by those that need to know which is also good.
 

Banana Bar

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Arable Farmer
Location
Bury St Edmunds
Which is exactly my scenario, harvest is on hold until I can get some lorries.

I think we've all but made the decision to build a new grain store in the winter.

Tbh all this supply chain partnership, premiums and added value spiel is of less importance than being able to get grain shifted promptly.

I’m afraid supply chain is bulls**t and always has been, Malsters, millers, distillers etc are only interested in partnerships when supply is short. We as farmers are mugs to keep growing yield.
Also considering a large store.
 

goodevans

Member
Looking at the forecast there will be plenty of time to move it this week so the supply of lorries may get tighter as we get further into harvest
 

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