welcome to my world agricultural vehicles are not exempt from load securing
Pig muck insecure load
- Thread starter young bull
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Steevo
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- Location
- Gloucestershire
It’s certainly a moving load...! And not secure either!
- Location
- North Notts
It's those that pile their trailers brim full and lose contents onto the road that are the problem, where do you draw the line, level full if not sheeted..?
Nearly
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- Location
- North of York
I followed a large blue DRT trailer on a JD around Harrogate last night. It was a work of art, compost piled at a 45 degree angle, patted down flat.
Pushing the weight boundaries by the way it climbed like a slug up the hill in front of me.
How much extra on the spec is a sheet like this?
Pushing the weight boundaries by the way it climbed like a slug up the hill in front of me.
How much extra on the spec is a sheet like this?
open vessel need a sheet or net regardless of how full it is
A small 4 acre field locally got sold for housing a few years back, which had regular tractor traffic at all times of the day without restriction, for the past 30 years. Non of the farm muck trailers were ever sheeted, debris flying off tractor and land rover tyres were regularly left all over the road, sheep would escape on to the public highway etc. This was accepted by all, with no complaints.
However, as soon as the builders moved in with 2 diggers and a dumper, they had to install a wheel wash, which was deemed unacceptable by the council, as a result a full time road sweeper had to be employed. They were not allowed to store waste, operating times were restricted to 8 30 am to 6pm.There were regular visits from the police and council officials with tipper trucks being inspected.
Some of us really should be more grateful for how relaxed the laws are enforced when it comes to agricultural activities. It will only take one major fatal accident to put us all in the media spot light.
However, as soon as the builders moved in with 2 diggers and a dumper, they had to install a wheel wash, which was deemed unacceptable by the council, as a result a full time road sweeper had to be employed. They were not allowed to store waste, operating times were restricted to 8 30 am to 6pm.There were regular visits from the police and council officials with tipper trucks being inspected.
Some of us really should be more grateful for how relaxed the laws are enforced when it comes to agricultural activities. It will only take one major fatal accident to put us all in the media spot light.
- Location
- Cheltenham
True but won’t be long before they have to. Have you ever followed a straw lorry down the motorway with fresh baled stuff? Straw shorts go everywhere. Some loads are worse than others.
Ivorbiggun
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- Location
- Norfolk
What most farmers forget is when they changed the weight limit to 32 tons they didn’t change the law on trailer weight.
which is still the same at 18.3 tons for the load and trailer. Which means if you have a 10 ton tractor on the front your restricted to 28.3 tons and not 32. They only changed the law to allow a heavier tractor to be used to make it safer.
which is still the same at 18.3 tons for the load and trailer. Which means if you have a 10 ton tractor on the front your restricted to 28.3 tons and not 32. They only changed the law to allow a heavier tractor to be used to make it safer.
Ivorbiggun
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- Location
- Norfolk
But if a grey area this one, net would be no good on straw and the h&s implications of sheeting a load up. Should be made to use tautliners.
Tarw Coch
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- Location
- Bottom of Wats Dyke
Yes, a nearby farmer was taking potato boxes of pumpkins to a retail outlet on a flatbed Ivor Williams when he was stopped and charged with insecure load. As none had fallen off nor did he think any were likely to he refused the fixed penalty and went to court. He defended himself, stated to the judge that he didn’t think it likely that anything could fall off and that if the police Officer thought otherwise why did he let him continue his journey and Case was dismissed.
Some people do take liberties, push boundaries and don’t use common sense, undoubtedly some farmers fall into this category.
But farmers aren’t alone, it can be seen in all walks of life, including in over zealous police officers.
It’s allways the same wherever it occurs, it’s the bad ones that get the rest a bad name.
- Location
- pembrokeshire
here is a storey that will warm the cockles of your hearts the local ministry chap was going down the Cardigan bypass win an unmarked police car when he spotted a daisy brown 990 (the red and yellow model)with sand and gravel on a trailer they pulled him over established he was hauling building material for a builder, so decided to take a sample of fuel not having a bottle they told the driver to wait while they went into town to get one , you know what ?when they got back no tractor and trailer, so they spent a couple of hours looking for the ofender, this story was told by the ministry mans girl friend who said to me ask neil how fast is a david brown? cos they cant catch one with a pursuit car, his reply was i will catch the b--tard i got his registration number, my bet is it was last taxed with its registration in 1960 so good luck with that
Ivorbiggun
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- Location
- Norfolk
Years ago unless something fell off your vehicle it was deemed to be safe. Then they changed the wording to if you’re involved in an accident or taking avoiding action then Your load should stay on the vehicle. We had a lorry driver here the other day delivering 1 ton bags of fertiliser in a tautliner and he had strapped every bag down with ratchet straps. I commented on his professionalism to secure the load and said it must have taken a while to do it. He then explained they wont let any vehicle leave the loading point unless it’s done this way.
- Location
- Fife
If an HGV is stopped and the load is deemed insecure it's the driver personally who pays the fine.
I don't move a wheel till I'm happy the load is secure. Which means every individual pallet is strapped.
Exfarmer
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- Location
- Bury St Edmunds
Every few years plod will decide one of the local East Anglia beet lorries is insecure , there will be a fuss and for a few weeks you will see some netted , and then someone will point out how dangerous this is and it will stop. Have not seen one netted for a few years now.
if you are not losing load then it is OK and plod has no business stopping you
if you are not losing load then it is OK and plod has no business stopping you
GeorgeK
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- Location
- Leicestershire
Skip lorries often push the limits, but it's not really their fault. The skips say "level load only", first thing the builders do is go round the edge with timber sheets to make the skip bigger
- Location
- Fife
That's simply not correct.
Mr Mackay
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- Location
- HMP Slade , Shropshire
When I saw the thread title , I thought back to a farmer not too far from here , that was using a tipping trailer to move sloppy muck up the road to a field .
He was struggling up the steepish bank as per usual with the old Massey , hand cranking the bar back as far as it'd go and willing it on , when all of a sudden she had a power boost and the smoke cleared a bit !!!!
Unfortunately (as you probably guessed ) the tailboard had broken free and all the shyte shot out down the tarmac road !! leaving him suddenly clearer as to the extra oomph his old favorite had showed him !
He was struggling up the steepish bank as per usual with the old Massey , hand cranking the bar back as far as it'd go and willing it on , when all of a sudden she had a power boost and the smoke cleared a bit !!!!
Unfortunately (as you probably guessed ) the tailboard had broken free and all the shyte shot out down the tarmac road !!
leaving him suddenly clearer as to the extra oomph his old favorite had showed him !
- Location
- Cornwall
Several years ago now, I was on a fairly minor road with an artic load of straw, pulled in a bit tight to let another lorry pass, and caught a big tree branch which ripped open a bale..
So pulled in as soon as I could and 'hurled' a couple of ratchet straps over the offending bale so as not to loose any straw...
Jumped back in, went to pull away and she stalled out ! Thought "that's a bit weird", Gave her a bit more right foot and away we went, just in time to see the telegraph poles bend seriously and twang upright again!
I'd only gone and strapped the phone lines to the top of my load !!
Knocked out a couple of villages phones for a few weeks !!
So pulled in as soon as I could and 'hurled' a couple of ratchet straps over the offending bale so as not to loose any straw...
Jumped back in, went to pull away and she stalled out ! Thought "that's a bit weird", Gave her a bit more right foot and away we went, just in time to see the telegraph poles bend seriously and twang upright again!
I'd only gone and strapped the phone lines to the top of my load !!
Knocked out a couple of villages phones for a few weeks !!
- Location
- Cornwall
And on a more serious note, hauliers may be more inclined to net straw if their nets and tarps weren't constantly destroyed by low trees and branches !!
It seems to me that straw lorries and trailers are the main removers of low branches for everyone else...
Who is to blame if a branch that's is blatantly lower than the legal requirement lands in the road ?
Another grey area in my book !
It seems to me that straw lorries and trailers are the main removers of low branches for everyone else...
Who is to blame if a branch that's is blatantly lower than the legal requirement lands in the road ?
Another grey area in my book !
and the increased journeys/traffic movements and increased costs not to mention the environment