Pig muck insecure load

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
I have been leading pig muck recently and I was pulled into a lay-by for a vehicle safety check and was fined for an insecure load because I didn’t have a net over the pig muck. Has anybody else had this happen or heard of having to net every load?

I’m guessing they couldn’t manage to find anything else then?

Clutching at straws I’d have thought, but you’ll struggle to appeal it unless you’ve evidence that it was a safe load (photos of that load would be a start maybe), so I suspect you’ll just have to grumble and pay the t*ssers.:(
 

Ormond

Member
Whats the story with leading muck on the road with a spreader.....not going to get much in if below the sides....a fun job netting it every load. Im starting to feel like I'm breaking the law everytime I go out on the road with the tractor... if it's not , speed , weight, unsecured load, mud on the road etc etc .
 

young bull

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
West Yorkshire
Modern tractor and trailer complete with tailgate everything else was in order. It was above the sides but not piled so high as that bits could roll off and definitely not weaving down the road leaving a trail.
 

kiwi pom

Member
Location
canterbury NZ
Modern tractor and trailer complete with tailgate everything else was in order. It was above the sides but not piled so high as that bits could roll off and definitely not weaving down the road leaving a trail.

Welcome to the world of road transport!
At least they couldn't check how many hours you worked this week or give you a ticket for not taking a break at the right time etc.
 
Location
East Mids
How many people corn carting from combine back to farm sheet each load if they are going on a public road at any point?

Where do muck spreaders stand in all this if loading form yard and driving along lane to spread?
 

kiwi pom

Member
Location
canterbury NZ
How many people corn carting from combine back to farm sheet each load if they are going on a public road at any point?

Where do muck spreaders stand in all this if loading form yard and driving along lane to spread?

Depends how far you're going and what you're transporting it with. I wouldn't think wheat would be higher than the sides.
All lot of the time you have to decide what you think the risk of getting stopped is and then it depends on the mood of whoever pulls you up.
If a big lump of 'box muck' comes off a spreader and lands on plods car, I'm guessing some money will change hands.
 

unlacedgecko

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Fife
I want credits for all the rubbish and fly tipping I pick up off the verges, which I can exchange for exemptions from the odd bit that drops out my trailer

Good luck with that.

Unfortunately that's not how is works.... As you have an address, mortgage, insurance, house, business, BPS claim you have a stake in society. You're an easy target for revenue raising.

After all, those town hall salaries and civil service pensions won't pay themselves.

 

Ivorbiggun

Member
Location
Norfolk
Hang on a minute, is there any evidence the OP was overweight and what are the laws on driver hours for tractors?
Not saying it was overweight and there are no driver hours for tractors. Just pointing out that some farmers think their above the law. There was obviously something the old bill didn’t like about this or they wouldn’t have pulled him over in the first place.
 

young bull

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
West Yorkshire
Not saying it was overweight and there are no driver hours for tractors. Just pointing out that some farmers think their above the law. There was obviously something the old bill didn’t like about this or they wouldn’t have pulled him over in the first place.

They had been pulling all sorts of vehicles over all day to dip tanks and for random vehicle safety checks 9 loads had been passed before I was stopped and I was allowed to carry on with my journey after receiving the ticket.

I am not debating whether I should have been done or not because if that’s what the laws says then that’s what the law is. This thread was more to see if anyone else had been done or even heard of this because I should think very few of any farmers sheet or net their loads.
 

egbert

Member
Livestock Farmer
Old farmer nextdoor was trundling along a B road one day -as he did every day all winter- with 2-3 'blocks' of clamp silage cut and stacked on a little flat trailer (remember blockcutters..is that what they were called?).
Pitchfork stuck in one block, collie stood on top of another, Daisy Brown 885 chugging away, pipe going well, and alls good.

Not this day, when a distant plod happened by, and took great umbrage to the 'insecure load'.
I recall neighbour promised faithfully to review his procedures......
 

An Gof

Member
Location
Cornwall
Old farmer nextdoor was trundling along a B road one day -as he did every day all winter- with 2-3 'blocks' of clamp silage cut and stacked on a little flat trailer (remember blockcutters..is that what they were called?).
Pitchfork stuck in one block, collie stood on top of another, Daisy Brown 885 chugging away, pipe going well, and alls good.

Not this day, when a distant plod happened by, and took great umbrage to the 'insecure load'.
I recall neighbour promised faithfully to review his procedures......

Policeman on Dartmoor? Was he lost? :ROFLMAO:
PS I remember the days of the old Parmiter silage blockcutter, what a joy it was when we had our first shear grab (y)
 
Location
whitby
They had been pulling all sorts of vehicles over all day to dip tanks and for random vehicle safety checks 9 loads had been passed before I was stopped and I was allowed to carry on with my journey after receiving the ticket.

I am not debating whether I should have been done or not because if that’s what the laws says then that’s what the law is. This thread was more to see if anyone else had been done or even heard of this because I should think very few of any farmers sheet or net their loads.
They allowed you to carry on after claiming youre load was insecure?
Was there something on the other thread about that being the way to get out of the ticket, as plod effectively sent an insecure load back onto the road?
 

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