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Is it 39m I way or round trip ?so how much would you be on , deliver 10 rounds hay 1st quality and 20 small barley straw , every 2 weeks 39 mile unloaded and paid before you get ropes wrapped up good access
Is it 39m I way or round trip ?so how much would you be on , deliver 10 rounds hay 1st quality and 20 small barley straw , every 2 weeks 39 mile unloaded and paid before you get ropes wrapped up good access
each wayIs it 39m I way or round trip ?
Horse hay vatable too apparently?
But feeding straw is none-vat-able, and bedding straw is vat-able.Nope. Your growing a crop of agricultural produce. What the end user does with it is their business
Sounds about right some a pain in a!!e. Are some good ones thoughWe have sold small bales on Faceache, usually with some hassle, people coming to collect fail to turn up. I don't mind delivering locally, but we had someone outside Shropshire who wanted 40 bales, next time we were passing...I told here we never passed and she offered to pay for the 80 mile or whatever round trip, 50p/mile must have put her off.
Would the same not apply to all straw? Don't think any forage has VAT. Could argue that a wrapped bale should have separate costs for hay and plastic. A minefield out there.But feeding straw is none-vat-able, and bedding straw is vat-able.
How does the seller know the destiny of their straw. And if the buyer is going to use it for bedding, should he lie and say he is going to use it for feeding!!!!!!! And what does the Vatman or Rishi think????
And if it is used as feeding straw, how do the cows know not to shiit on it and compromise its Vat status. .
Travis Perkins have a minimum order of £200 delivered. CCF a minimum of £100.This thread opens up a few lines of thought for me, mainly:
1. It's amazing how farmers views differ if they are selling & delivering versus buying stuff and wanting it delivered.
Happy to moan about customers wanting small deliveries and wanting the deliveries done in a certain way, but (ime) expecting to get stuff delivered at the drop of a hat, at a set time and in a specific way even for small amounts eg "I need 3 tonnes of cake before afternoon milking tomorrow, but not before 9.30 in the morning as the cows will still be in the yard"
2. Farmers are quick to moan about people "skiving on benefits" or celebs or politicians using legal tax avoidance schemes, whilst bragging about "no VAT on beer tokens"
3. Farmers being totally unaware that Tax or Customs & Excise officials might take a look at a thread like this.
I'd love to see how farmers would react if, for instance, their local meat plant said they'd only take a minimum of 20 fat cattle or 100 lambs at a time, and only at 5.00 pm on a Friday, the grain buyer said all lorries had to be loaded within 30
minutes of arrival or there'd be a £100/hr "waiting time" charge, and milk processors said they'd only collect Mon-Friday!
Would be great if farmers could dictate their own terms but in reality we are all competing against each other. If snobby horse woman doesn’t buy from farmer A. farmer B will be more than willing to get a new customer. Also so many variables in the hay silage or straw that change the price Along with distance cash cheque or kind.Travis Perkins have a minimum order of £200 delivered. CCF a minimum of £100.
Fuel companies will not unload into tanks they deem unsafe, or where step ladders are needed. Minimum order....500 L.
An alarming number of companies now want paying by BACS. Plenty want paying up front.
I'd say the majority dictate their own terms. Why shouldn't we ?
The french have it right , you can spend 20k and they will still charge for delivery 10 miles up the road , hence most french have a towbarTravis Perkins have a minimum order of £200 delivered. CCF a minimum of £100.
Fuel companies will not unload into tanks they deem unsafe, or where step ladders are needed. Minimum order....500 L.
An alarming number of companies now want paying by BACS. Plenty want paying up front.
I'd say the majority dictate their own terms. Why shouldn't we ?
Been the undoing of many a feed merchant. Selling hay too horsey women and taking payment in kind instead of cash!Along with distance cash cheque or kind
Do a bit of horse hay ourselves, never been too concerned about method of payment as long as we get paid. Never been offered payment in kind and I’m not too sure I’d want it from some of the old girls we go to !!Been the undoing of many a feed merchant. Selling hay too horsey women and taking payment in kind instead of cash!
so how much would you be on , deliver 10 rounds hay 1st quality and 20 small barley straw , every 2 weeks 39 mile unloaded and paid before you get ropes wrapped up good access
What do you charge , needs to be a per mile charge + product ,each way
usually go saturday teatime if not busy or covid , and tie it in with night out for wife or wife goes on sunday’s if busy
mmmmmDo a bit of horse hay ourselves, never been too concerned about method of payment as long as we get paid. Never been offered payment in kind and I’m not too sure I’d want it from some of the old girls we go to !!
just price per bale deliveredWhat do you charge , needs to be a per mile charge + product ,
Some of the girls round Telford look like they’ve been poured into their jods. Physically repulsed by some of the sights I’ve seen. Debating buying two cats and listening to Elton John after seeing some of those thingsDo a bit of horse hay ourselves, never been too concerned about method of payment as long as we get paid. Never been offered payment in kind and I’m not too sure I’d want it from some of the old girls we go to !!
Does the price vary , I find it easier to have a standard price then charge delivery per milejust price per bale delivered
Does the price vary , I find it easier to have a standard price then charge delivery per mile
But some of us, with a bit of enterprise, would add a bit to the retail price (Vat free) and not charge for delivery.Delivery charges are subject to VAT. That can make a difference if you are selling to a retail customer, plus makes accountancy more complex too.
All of us would, apart from Derrick it seems.But some of us, with a bit of enterprise, would add a bit to the retail price (Vat free) and not charge for delivery.
Only if you cheat the taxman. I declare all my tax.And payment in cash makes accountancy a doddle.