ollie989898
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Like getting blood from a stone
I learned the hard way that there are no hard rules in the game. All the old rules I learnt at college were routinely broken and people still get away with it.
Fertiliser recommendations for maize
- Thread starter cowboysupper
- Start date
I learned the hard way that there are no hard rules in the game. All the old rules I learnt at college were routinely broken and people still get away with it.
- Location
- Wiltshire
So true. A couple of days ago I had somebody tell me maize did not benefit from muck or slurry
At least I wasn’t buying from them.
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ollie989898
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So true. A couple of days ago I had somebody tell me maize did not benefit from muck or slurry
At least I wasn’t buying from them.
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Jesus, that is bad. Either through technical ignorance or plain porkies, im not sure what is worse really. Telling people to apply hefty doses of nitrogen with no consideration for what are often very large quantities of slurry or manure is going to eventually land people in trouble with the ministry.
- Location
- Wiltshire
With phosphate the next target there could be issues for maize growers. Routine hefty doses of P along with muck on high index fields will not help.
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dinderleat
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- Location
- Wells
We took a farm on with 0 and 1s indexes so we fed fairly hard to start with cwt down the spout of dap 2cwt of mop in the seed bed and 2cwt of nitran plus muck. Still like to put a bit on but getting 20tn+ crops and holding 3 indexes you have to put something on
So after some further deliberation and discussion with a few more farmers locally about what was initially recommended by the sales merchant, the consensus I'm getting is that farmers have tried RB209 recommendations for growing maize in Northern Ireland and it has unfortunately produced poor crops. 140 units of Nitrogen seems to be the norm in this part of the world.
Thanks for comments to date, alway good to get a second opinion!
Thanks for comments to date, alway good to get a second opinion!
ollie989898
Member
I would use about 1 cwt of DAP per acre down the spout and possibly 2-3 cwt/acre of some kind of after cut fertiliser like 24.0.14 or similar, assuming this is fertile dirt.
I'm not convinced you will get any more yield or grain out of maize from putting another 100 units of N on top of what I have outlined above.
If you want nothing but outright fresh weight grow later varieties at a higher seed rate.
Timbo
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- Location
- Gods County
Are you in acres?
ollie989898
Member
All in the seed bed then.
Timbo
Member
- Location
- Gods County
Yes
So what do you recommend in kg/ha for tsp 46, mop 60?
ollie989898
Member
I'd need to see soil test results for that. If you send yours to Yara they should come back with recommendations for these, they are basically out of RB209 anyway.
If your indices are 2 or 3 and you have applied 30t/ha of FYM I'd be very hesitant to make you apply much more P and K, Potash in particular will be heavy in most manures.
Tompkins
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- Location
- NE Somerset
Been growing maize for a long time and rarely do we top dress with N. This year we've put 150kg/ha DAP down the spout and most has had either poultry litter or FYM underneath it. Neighbour used to plaster his maize with nitrogen but I could never see a huge benefit from over the hedge.
In my experience the most important things are dealing with compaction and weed control.
In my experience the most important things are dealing with compaction and weed control.