Food Shortages

betweenthelines · Sep 24, 2021

Two Tone said:
Did mine in 4 days and the test was on the 5th day. Sharing with another trainee too.
Farmers that already know how to reverse a trailer have a huge advantage.

Learning to pass a test is the quick bit though.

First you have to get a Medical, apply for a provisional licence (huge backlog at DVLA) book and pass a theory test, book a test date (usually done by the training provider, but again big delays "due to covid")

You won't be let out on the road as soon as you pass the test either. You need to do 35 hours Driver CPC training (again delays "due to covid") and get taught the tachograph/driver hours rules (which isn't part of the test!)

And most reasonable employers are aware that passing a test is not the same as being able to drive, so may well want you to do a bit more training before you are let loose on your own.

5 years ago, three months from getting your Medical to driving on your own was considered good. That was with the employer offering loads of support such as mock theory testing, in house training etc.

Now I suspect it's probably twice that.

Still Farming · Sep 24, 2021

queues for fuel everywhere today?
Crazy.

puppet · Sep 24, 2021

betweenthelines said:
Learning to pass a test is the quick bit though.

First you have to get a Medical, apply for a provisional licence (huge backlog at DVLA) book and pass a theory test, book a test date (usually done by the training provider, but again big delays "due to covid")

You won't be let out on the road as soon as you pass the test either. You need to do 35 hours Driver CPC training (again delays "due to covid") and get taught the tachograph/driver hours rules (which isn't part of the test!)
5 years ago, three months from getting your Medical to driving on your own was considered good. That was with the employer offering loads of support such as mock theory testing, in house training etc.

Bit like saying you have a certificate and expecting to drive a forage harvester next day.
Don't think driving a fuel tanker week after your test a good idea either. Start by delivering some biscuits to Tesco

Sid · Sep 24, 2021

Two Tone said:
Did mine in 4 days and the test was on the 5th day. Sharing with another trainee too.
Farmers that already know how to reverse a trailer have a huge advantage.

Also understand how trailers cut corners

Bongodog · Sep 24, 2021

Still Farming said:
queues for fuel everywhere today?
Crazy.

Yes it is crazy, especially after hearing on the BBC radio news this morning that that the total number of BP filling stations that ran out yesterday was 5 !!!
So as a result of 5 out of over `10000 filling stations having no fuel we end up with panic buying.

Its the same with the supermarkets, we went to do our weekly shop yesterday at the nearest Tesco extra, no shortages of anything, the only shelf that looked less stocked than usual was bottled water, hardly an essential. Meanwhile the supermarket bosses are sending out warnings of Christmas stock shortages etc. A cynic might say that they want us all to buy the Chrsitmas puddings, chocolates, twiglets etc early as we will then not be able to resist eating them and will then buty a 2nd bactch.

Still Farming · Sep 24, 2021

Like a" Mexican wave ",effects and the Authorities want to qwell asap!

Lowland1 · Sep 24, 2021

No Cookies | The Weekly Times

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www.weeklytimesnow.com.au

It’s not all rosy in Oz.

Millions of vegetables thrown away as labour shortages hit farmers

3.5m heads of broccoli and 1.9m heads of cauliflower have been thrown away by just one producer

www.independent.co.uk

Nor in the UK.
It’s what happens when you tell people it’s O.K you don’t have to work and stay at home it’s safer. Well who actually is going to do the work of picking, packing it and getting it to market? Food isn’t in short supply it just doesn’t pick itself.

lazy farmer · Sep 24, 2021

7610 super q said:
You don't like the idea of money being passed on to contractors, machinery dealers, and agri merchants then ? Oh well.

Never had a yr when I passed on more than I’ve earned. That road lies ruin.

ridger · Sep 24, 2021

Sid said:
How long realistically does it take to train to be able to pass a HGV test?

2 days it took me

Kevtherev · Sep 24, 2021

Will We see a return to grow your own like when covid kicked off in the beginning??

br jones · Sep 24, 2021

Kevtherev said:
Will We see a return to grow your own like when covid kicked off in the beginning??View attachment 987595

i do now ,always have done

Kevtherev · Sep 24, 2021

br jones said:
i do now ,always have done

We always do here too

Bill the Bass · Sep 24, 2021

Farmer Roy said:
Not really, we waste / throw out at least 30 % of all food produced, in fact, waste food is a major contributor to climate change . . .

so - there is a fair bit of fat left in the system if we just got a bit more efficient with distribution & usage of food, more do than production

And do you think ‘we’ will change? I don’t. Look at the lock downs, arguably the best think for climate change and reducing food waste; I don’t know bout Oz (but I could guess by the recent protests) but here people have been desperate to get back to ‘normal’ consumption, lifestyle etc. I don’t see things changing anytime soon.

Devil's advocate · Sep 24, 2021

The food shortage will come.

Weather so erratic, terrible weather in Murcia just on the newly planted veg/salad crops for the xmas market.

holywell farmer · Sep 24, 2021

Kevtherev said:
On radio today talking about it as a consequence of the labour shortage plus gas shortages talk of folk stock piling essential items again.
Should we be more self sufficient again like the days in years passed?View attachment 987415

In 2020 they should done a modern day version of dig for victory

Bongodog · Sep 24, 2021

Christmas dinner at risk they say, what the hell do you need for Christmas dinner ? One turkey (other meats or a veggie option are available) bag of taters, sprouts, carrots or parsnips and a christmas pud. If people just bought what they could eat and didn't waste 60% of it the supermarkets would regret their doomsaying.

tw15 · Sep 24, 2021

Going to shoot my own xmas dinner feck the likes of tesco , plenty of venison and game will be in the freezer by xmas .

Kidds · Sep 24, 2021

I've got the best crop of apples I am ever likely to have but can't pick them cos Mum's bad and I have to see to her first. Very frustrating but Mum has to come first.
I can pick a bin per hour which is good. Getting the hour to do it is the challenge right now.

I know this isn't the thread to say it but needed it to say it somewhere.

Red Fred · Sep 24, 2021

We've hardly had any apples down our way. Had a glut last year though and they always seem to alternate.

Devil's advocate · Sep 24, 2021

Kidds said:
I've got the best crop of apples I am ever likely to have but can't pick them cos Mum's bad and I have to see to her first. Very frustrating but Mum has to come first.
I can pick a bin per hour which is good. Getting the hour to do it is the challenge right now.

I know this isn't the thread to say it but needed it to say it somewhere.

Well done Dave, family comes first.

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