- Location
- NSW, Newstralya
Food Shortages
- Thread starter Kevtherev
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betweenthelines
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- Location
- southwest
Farmers should welcome food shortages-there's nothing nothing better than a shortage to push up prices. Just look at fertiliser manufacturing!
But, is there really a food shortage? Or is it just a supply chain issue?
Despite filling stations running out, there's no fuel shortage, it's just that the refineries can't get it moved out. There's no HGV driver shortage as half of those with the licence (like myself) no longer drive HGV's.
Now, a cynic (like myself) might say that shortages of working drivers leading to empty s/market shelves might well have been predictable. But that big business is happy for this to happen as the consequences will be easing of driver testing standards and more drivers coming in from abroad, leading to more drivers chasing jobs which will in turn help keep wages down. Everyone in the transport industry knew 5 years ago (even before Brexit) that a driver shortage was looming but no one did anything serious--like increasing wages, improving working conditions or training new drivers-- to change it.
CF have played a blinder on a similar thought process-shut the plant down-we know that will cause chaos for CO2 users, then someone will have to pay us to start up again.
Isn't the free market a wonderful thing.
But, is there really a food shortage? Or is it just a supply chain issue?
Despite filling stations running out, there's no fuel shortage, it's just that the refineries can't get it moved out. There's no HGV driver shortage as half of those with the licence (like myself) no longer drive HGV's.
Now, a cynic (like myself) might say that shortages of working drivers leading to empty s/market shelves might well have been predictable. But that big business is happy for this to happen as the consequences will be easing of driver testing standards and more drivers coming in from abroad, leading to more drivers chasing jobs which will in turn help keep wages down. Everyone in the transport industry knew 5 years ago (even before Brexit) that a driver shortage was looming but no one did anything serious--like increasing wages, improving working conditions or training new drivers-- to change it.
CF have played a blinder on a similar thought process-shut the plant down-we know that will cause chaos for CO2 users, then someone will have to pay us to start up again.
Isn't the free market a wonderful thing.
beardface
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- Location
- East Yorkshire
The issue is that input costs have risen just as quickly. Meaning GM is not much different. Add in spiralling inflation plus ridiculously low interest rates and it's not that Rosie.
- Location
- NSW, Newstralya
Didn’t your mouses eat everything Roy?
they ate about $100K worth of mungbeans & maybe $50K worth of sorghum, but we still had the most profitable mungbean crop I’ve ever grown. It was a real game changer, tbh. $1300 / tonne
- Location
- South Molton
No shortages just too many RT like assessors going round getting up drivers noses critiquing these hard working guys.
Why would you put up with one of these jobsworth with their fecking clipboard when you can switch jobs easily for something with less hassle
Why would you put up with one of these jobsworth with their fecking clipboard when you can switch jobs easily for something with less hassle
- Location
- Welshpool Powys
JohnGalway
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- Location
- Connemara, Ireland
Every day another industry plays a blinder..... gas...... fert....drivers....dentists...today it's petrol. One industry though remains quiet though. Quite happy to accept 15th century prices for their wares. Which industry is that.....it will come to me in a minute...let me think....
While farmers sell "commodities" there ain't no way around that.
- Location
- South Molton
How long realistically does it take to train to be able to pass a HGV test?
- Location
- West Suffolk
- Location
- South Molton
Even with experience,with tractors
- Location
- NSW, Newstralya
WTF is the point of putting prices up for produce on the other side of the world ?
Look at post # 2.
Grain price ATM seems reasonable compared to the late 90's. So what ? What's wrong with wanting more ?
Do plumbers and other tradesmen peg their prices at 1990's levels, cos they're embarrassed to want more ? Don't think so.
Jeeeez. This forum takes the biscuit factory.
because grain prices are ALWAYS related to international prices, plus or minus the local basis
as we are an export driven industry, our prices ( on the other side of the world ) are always driven by international prices.
So, the prices we get are always related to what is happening in the EU, the Black Sea, USA, Canada etc etc - the rest of the world . . .
it is a global economy & market
if international prices are higher than your domestic prices, then why are you selling domestically ???
sell to the highest bidder, don’t whinge about how bad prices are when they are obviously higher in other markets
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- Location
- South Wales UK
Farm shops full?
People brain washed to Supermarkets though???
People brain washed to Supermarkets though???
lazy farmer
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- Location
- som/dor border
Give me strength
- Location
- NSW, Newstralya
If you’re not happy with the prices you receive, find other markets or sell up to someone who is happy with the prices they get
f**king whinging f**king farmers who are always complaining just do my head in
f**king whinging f**king farmers who are always complaining just do my head in
- Location
- NSW, Newstralya
We ARE an export driven industry.
Our high prices for all commodities, lamb, beef, grains, oilseeds, legumes, cotton, wool - are ALL driven by international demand.
If you sad sacks can’t see the potential in that, then yeah, knock yourselves out complaining about 1970’s ( or 15th Century ) prices
Our high prices for all commodities, lamb, beef, grains, oilseeds, legumes, cotton, wool - are ALL driven by international demand.
If you sad sacks can’t see the potential in that, then yeah, knock yourselves out complaining about 1970’s ( or 15th Century ) prices
- Location
- NSW, Newstralya
Always easier to complain about others isn’t it, than take any responsibility
- Location
- Moreton-in-Marsh, Glos
Stick to what you do best. Posting pictures of beer bottles, and endless permutations of the word vagina to circumvent the swear filter.
You don't like the idea of money being passed on to contractors, machinery dealers, and agri merchants then ? Oh well.
Mr Mackay
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- Location
- HMP Slade , Shropshire
Careful Now !!Every day another industry plays a blinder..... gas...... fert....drivers....dentists...today it's petrol. One industry though remains quiet though. Quite happy to accept 15th century prices for their wares. Which industry is that.....it will come to me in a minute...let me think....