M-J-G
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The skill of a stockman is mainly to avoid having calves that need help.
Calving jack v Pulley blocks .
- Thread starter Treecreeper
- Start date
Sort of.
Thats more the skill of a stock breeder.
The stock man still has to be there to pick up the pieces when it all goes horribly wrong!!
You didn't do the ''principle of moments'' at school, did you?
You're still not a proper farmer. "The best laid schemes o' mice an' stockmen gang aft agley"
M-J-G
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There are a lot more factors that determine calving ease than just breeding.
And if the breeder is that poor, the stockman would be better off either tuning his breeding skills (if he too is the breeder) or going to another job if he is having to work harder to due to the decisions of a breeder who doesn't know what they are doing.
M-J-G
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Of course not, a proper farmer would never plan to avoid calving issues.
That would just be lunacy.
- Location
- Huntingdon, UK
I did a degree in engineering.
With a vink you get more pressure using it as a lever.
Is it when it comes out the nose?
M-J-G
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I've been told several times by vets that hanging a calf up or swinging a lamb does more harm than it will good.
So I stopped it probably a decade ago.
Setting a newborn on it's chest and stimulating it by rubbing it is about the best thing you can do IMO
If it's not satisfactorily responsive I'll splash cold water on it in an attempt to encourage it to gasp.
- Location
- Aberdeenshire
Yep. Some will be from the nasal cavities. But remember your mouth and nose are connected at the top of your throat. Hence why when you are sick some always comes down your nose.
- Location
- Aberdeenshire
Cold water in the ear works a treat.
Anyone who's using pulley blocks remember were they bought them ? Looking to buy a set and wondered were to get them , google only comes up with Australian or NZ ones.
M-J-G
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Yes, pushing down on the bar can be pretty brutal, and I generally don't like to see it.
The handle will never pull as hard levering with the bar.
- Location
- sw scotland
Just calved a monster - alive- and I always use the leverage which gives more control. Just lift the bar up to take tension off the legs then GENTLY down with the next contraction. Couple of ratchets and repeat. Took around 10 minutes to ease it out. Pushing down also seems to give space for the forehead.
I used them years ago in Australia, anchored it to the quad or just put it around my waste and lent into it.
flywheel
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- Location
- wae up north
Vink here .don't get to use it much tho ...advantage over block & pulley is the vink keep the cow from being pulled around ..