Calving jack v Pulley blocks .

JP1

Member
Livestock Farmer
Never used a pulley block but I can see the use

Jacks are ok but you have a long pole (or might have for the bigger Continental one) and it needs space to face down the right way. IF you had a pulley block with various ways to angle it could be useful, as has been said you can release a bit between contractions

I still think the alternating pull Vink jacks are the dogs though
 

Stw88

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Location
Northumberland
Finally bought a vink this summer after using one of them awful ones that just slip off. Sadly it’s cursed, 3 outings and not a happy outcome yet 🙁
they are a good thing tho.
 

Rattie

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Cambs
Pulley block every time, need to have shed kitted out for one, eyes in numerous places etc, think they are safer for farmer and beast, vet says he wishes less farmers had jacks due to the damage a farmer can do with one!
I think that if you ease down on contractions and use it correctly, then possibly the safest and best tool at your disposal.

If you hammer away at the ratchet with no regard, then the worst tool. I think there should be a mandatory video or something on their use.. !
 
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neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
I don’t have cattle now, but calved plenty. If I were to buy some in-calf cows tomorrow, I would buy a Vink jack on my way back from buying them.

It’s just a tool. It’s not the jack that can do any damage, but the tool that operates it. I wouldn’t contemplate calving cows without having access to one when needed.
 

JSmith

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Livestock Farmer
The person on the jack is the most important, the make of the jack is irrelevant although some may be better than others but if you just ratchet away an rip the calf out with no regard for the cow an no understanding of how contractions work an when to pull or not then you should probably just call the vet, although that also depends how competent your vet is!! Anyone who pulls calves out the backend of a cow with a tractor or such like deserves to have the equivalent ripped out of there arsehole an then see how they feel about the job!!!
 

Paul E

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Location
Boggy.
Anyone who pulls calves out the backend of a cow with a tractor or such like deserves to have the equivalent ripped out of there arsehole an then see how they feel about the job!!!
I couldn't have put it better myself.
It is quite surprising the good one can do if used patiently, sympathetically and intermittently - not 1 massive rive, but a series of contraction enhancements
THE most important thing to know about a calving jack, (mines a Vink too) is when to stop pulling, and take it out the side.
Ceasareans are not nice, but a damn sight better than a dead calf/ cow that can't stand/ dead cow.
A calving jack/ vink/ pulley is to assist the cow if it's gonna be a bit tight, not to drag the poor little barsteward out of the old bitch at all costs.
 

Blaithin

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Alberta
Vink here, also very handy for hanging a calf up by its back legs if it’s come backwards & maybe has some fluid down it. Being a weakling I put the ropes above knee on hind legs & ratchet them up. Works a treat
Don’t want to hang them, compresses their lungs like if they’re a fat bloating. Best bet is put them in the recovery position to help the lungs expand.
 

Sid

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Livestock Farmer
Location
South Molton
The person on the jack is the most important, the make of the jack is irrelevant although some may be better than others but if you just ratchet away an rip the calf out with no regard for the cow an no understanding of how contractions work an when to pull or not then you should probably just call the vet, although that also depends how competent your vet is!! Anyone who pulls calves out the backend of a cow with a tractor or such like deserves to have the equivalent ripped out of there arsehole an then see how they feel about the job!!!
We bought a calving jack last year, first one ever.

We use to use long rope tied around something then placed pressure on them. Even used a tractor in the field as a dead weight to fix to.

My mum has lambed thousands of sheep for herself and difficult ones for many neighbours.
She always said if you can get a finger past a lamb or a hand past a calf there is room.

Using the jack as a pry bar is the key for gentle pressure not the ratchet part.

Why did we buy the jack?
Because with the 2nd unit and nearest help is miles away it makes things easy. I like easy.
 

Nearly

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Location
North of York
We bought a calving jack last year, first one ever.

We use to use long rope tied around something then placed pressure on them. Even used a tractor in the field as a dead weight to fix to.

My mum has lambed thousands of sheep for herself and difficult ones for many neighbours.
She always said if you can get a finger past a lamb or a hand past a calf there is room.

Using the jack as a pry bar is the key for gentle pressure not the ratchet part.

Why did we buy the jack?
Because with the 2nd unit and nearest help is miles away it makes things easy. I like easy.
Calving jack pulls one shoulder (or hip) and then the other. An easier wiggle than a straight tug.
 

Hilly

Member
You can tell if they need out the side door before you even start pulling, I make it my ambition not to have to help any I have not achieved it yet but normaly now if I’m needed it’s a vet job and something big is wrong , if your helping a big % cows calve your either getting involved to quick or breeding feeding wrong ,
 

Sid

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
South Molton
You can tell if they need out the side door before you even start pulling, I make it my ambition not to have to help any I have not achieved it yet but normaly now if I’m needed it’s a vet job and something big is wrong , if your helping a big % cows calve your either getting involved to quick or breeding feeding wrong ,
Used ours on 2% in last 12 months.
 

puppet

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
sw scotland
Anything is better than the Merlo and set of straps!

Our cows are fat. No matter what I try, I end up helping at least 20%, and always at 2am ! The Vink and my 2 Ritchie calving gates are the best £800 I've ever spent on the cattle. Ever.

The new cameras are going to be the 2nd best £500...
Autumn calvers can get fat so we leave calves on them until around 4 weeks before calving.
Spring cows are under your control and can be fed to condition.
Our best calving for interventions was in a very late Spring when silage was severely rationed and cows looked too thin. Out to nibble grass and calved easily
 

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