Its not being taken out of any of there wages and insurance will pay so they just dont care. What a sad work life most must have when they couldnt care less
Red tape, Government interference and bull#£&t- when did it first start?
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Steevo
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Or the stay at the last job just sat in the van and often still charging out to the client.
Chap in van still gets his £12/hr wage.
Company still charging him out at £100/hr.
Both are happy with and profiting from the arrangement.
Client gets shafted.
Campbell
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- Herefordshire
It is hard to imagine a more stupid
or more dangerous way of making decisions
than by putting those decisions in the hands of people
who pay no price for being wrong.
or more dangerous way of making decisions
than by putting those decisions in the hands of people
who pay no price for being wrong.
- Thomas Sowell
This quote just about sums up today's corporate world. It's clear that personal responsibility will become a dangerous way to make a living...........
livestock 1
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I have a mate on the railways doing the trees and such like he sits in his van doing nowt many a day
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- Near Colchester
To get back to the OP.
In the 18th Century there was the Speenhamland system which effectively kept the price of wheat up to try to prevent rural poverty
In 1815 the British Government passed the Corn Laws which raised tariffs against imported cereals, so Hmg fiddled with Agriculture at least that far back. This made the price of food rise.
In 1846 Robert Peel (inventor of the Police Force amongst other things) organised the repeal of the Corn Laws with much opposition from his landowning colleagues in Parliament.
That messed up British Ag in a larger or smaller way until about 1917. The lessons of WW1, U Boats and lack of imports was soon lost and by the 1930's world over production led to some very low returns to UK farmers, many gave up.
The 1947 Agriculture Act was based on the recent experience of almost running out of food again following the activities of the U Boats and the fact that we owed the US so much money encouraging home production, this lasted until the EU took over Ag policy where much larger proportions of the population are linked to farming and the belief that Rural types are much less likely to become Communists which was a worry to many of the original 6 at the time.
Following the leaving of that happy and corrupt club our lot are now on their own with their own ideas which is a worry with so many influences from people who are well fed and thick.
In the 18th Century there was the Speenhamland system which effectively kept the price of wheat up to try to prevent rural poverty
In 1815 the British Government passed the Corn Laws which raised tariffs against imported cereals, so Hmg fiddled with Agriculture at least that far back. This made the price of food rise.
In 1846 Robert Peel (inventor of the Police Force amongst other things) organised the repeal of the Corn Laws with much opposition from his landowning colleagues in Parliament.
That messed up British Ag in a larger or smaller way until about 1917. The lessons of WW1, U Boats and lack of imports was soon lost and by the 1930's world over production led to some very low returns to UK farmers, many gave up.
The 1947 Agriculture Act was based on the recent experience of almost running out of food again following the activities of the U Boats and the fact that we owed the US so much money encouraging home production, this lasted until the EU took over Ag policy where much larger proportions of the population are linked to farming and the belief that Rural types are much less likely to become Communists which was a worry to many of the original 6 at the time.
Following the leaving of that happy and corrupt club our lot are now on their own with their own ideas which is a worry with so many influences from people who are well fed and thick.
Just shows what muppets the EA is and also confirms that common sense has or is being breed out of a lot off their staff and a lot of the population . We are doomed i say DOOMED . The country is run by muppets
In his blog it clearly shows that the river is getting blocked and silted up on the inside of the bend so pushing the flow harder to the bank that gave out . Top tip to mr EA (if you are reading this) clean the rivers out from the outlet end working back inland and pull you finger out .
Steevo
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- Gloucestershire
By contrast today it could be suggested that the price of wheat is kept down in order to prevent (urban?) national poverty.
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- Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk
"Oxford University researchers have discovered the densest element yet known to science.
The new element, Governmentium (symbol=Gv), has one neutron, 25 assistant neutrons, 88 deputy neutrons and 198 assistant deputy neutrons, giving it an atomic mass of 312.
These 312 particles are held together by forces called morons, which are surrounded by vast quantities of lepton-like particles called pillocks.
Since Governmentium has no electrons, it is inert. However, it can be detected, because it impedes every reaction with which it comes into contact.
A tiny amount of Governmentium can cause a reaction that would normally take less than a second, to take from 4 days to 4 years to complete.
Governmentium has a normal half-life of 2 to 6 years.
It does not decay, but instead undergoes a reorganisation in which a portion of the assistant neutrons and deputy neutrons exchange places.
In fact, Governmentium's mass will actually increase over time, since each reorganisation will cause more morons to become neutrons, forming isodopes.
This characteristic of moron promotion leads some scientists to believe that Governmentium is formed whenever morons reach a critical concentration.
This hypothetical quantity is referred to as a critical morass.
When catalysed with money, Governmentium becomes Administratium (symbol=Ad), an element that radiates just as much energy as Governmentium, since it has half as many pillocks but twice as many morons.
Happy enough to make decisions to prosecute farmers
serf
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Them bunch off "see you next Thursdays" have got a lot to answer for inc blowing the world up and we are getting the whirlwind from it now everyday
......Not not forgetting the iron
chancellor that sold 400Ton of gold off at an all time low 
I think that isn't far out as long as there has been those with power and those without some have had their hands in others pockets
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- Scotland
Them bunch off "see you next Thursdays" have got a lot to answer for inc blowing the world up and we are getting the whirlwind from it now everyday
Not not forgetting the iron
Good job the past 14 years have been such a dream.
serf
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- warwickshire
That's what happens when you get Liberals hijacking the party ...
All this indisition to do nothing and let things drift with the clipboard bunch is just wasting tax payers money is mind blowing to say the least all people seem nowadays is to control people's businesses and lives it is heart braking where it will end ?
icanshootwell
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I remember an old farmer saying to me once, "For everyone 1 trying to get on, there are 10 trying to stop you"
John price found this out, how does a farmer get sent to jail for making an improvement, that would not of happened in the 80s.
As it's been pointed out when free money came along in the form of iacs, it's was going to cost us in the long run, when someone grabs hold of your balls, you tend to fall into line.
John price found this out, how does a farmer get sent to jail for making an improvement, that would not of happened in the 80s.
As it's been pointed out when free money came along in the form of iacs, it's was going to cost us in the long run, when someone grabs hold of your balls, you tend to fall into line.
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- Lincolnshire
There has been "government" interferrence with grain production since Tudor times.
Most of the "tinkering" has come about since the repeal of the corn laws - even then it was realised that our (at the time) superiour productive workforce and industrial capital meant it was better to import cheap grain from countries better suited to growing it, and redeploy rural workers to towns.
Provided you are "at war" you can continue this while sustaining high prices.
Once you are at peace, free market economics would hold that you stop growing grain in high cost / low margin areas of the world. From then on, its just tinkering around the edges to either a) gain votes or b) create jobs for graduates.
Most of the "tinkering" has come about since the repeal of the corn laws - even then it was realised that our (at the time) superiour productive workforce and industrial capital meant it was better to import cheap grain from countries better suited to growing it, and redeploy rural workers to towns.
Provided you are "at war" you can continue this while sustaining high prices.
Once you are at peace, free market economics would hold that you stop growing grain in high cost / low margin areas of the world. From then on, its just tinkering around the edges to either a) gain votes or b) create jobs for graduates.
Steevo
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- Gloucestershire
The strangest thing is that it's those that are "trying to stop you" who are doing so because of a deep distrust of others (farmers) and an absolute belief of righteousness based around their own organisation.
However, as has been shown with the Post Office scandal.....more often than not it's those "trying to get on" who are hones, innocent and trustworthy, and those controlling individuals high up in the "trying to stop you" institution who are the ones that are not worthy of trust, and often purely self-interested. Often their perception of what happens on the ground is also far removed from reality....not that they care.
Red Tractor being a perfect example.
Digital grain passports another.
DEFRA, RPA, Natural England another.
Environment Agency another.
The list goes on....
Both the Post office and Railtrack are Quangos so nothing to do with privatisation. They fall in the category of being govt owned, but not govt controlled.
Steevo
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- Gloucestershire
Civil service controlled?