Welsh dairy farming.

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Location
Somerset
Listened to the kite podcast today. I’m not sure how you guys do it. The resilience required is out of my league.
what are individual plans going forward?Other than hoping a change of leader in Cardiff bay will help.
I can't help with a Welsh perspective, I was also taken aback at the level of crap being dished out.
 

frederick

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Location
south west
Listened to the kite podcast today. I’m not sure how you guys do it. The resilience required is out of my league.
what are individual plans going forward?Other than hoping a change of leader in Cardiff bay will help.
It's the completely unjoined up thinking. Subsidise new dairies to create Jobs and growth in the country and the write off the production of milk with multiple levels of environmental intervention.
 
Location
West Wales
Listened to the kite podcast today. I’m not sure how you guys do it. The resilience required is out of my league.
what are individual plans going forward?Other than hoping a change of leader in Cardiff bay will help.

This autumn has been bleak down here especially with all this bulls**t going on. Put simply though we will do with out direct support.
 

vantage

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Pembs
Listened to the kite podcast today. I’m not sure how you guys do it. The resilience required is out of my league.
what are individual plans going forward?Other than hoping a change of leader in Cardiff bay will help.
vantage jnr, graduated last year from Hartpury with a first class honours degree in Agriculture, also had the highest marks for his year, he’s just won a scholarship to NZ, sadly I hope he sees the light and sees Wales dairy farming as a lost cause. My father was two years in NZ and wanted to emigrate when he married my mother back in the UK, but she wasn’t keen, although I had an auntie and have cousins there, so perhaps it’ll be a third generation thing!
 

vantage

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Pembs
It's the completely unjoined up thinking. Subsidise new dairies to create Jobs and growth in the country and the write off the production of milk with multiple levels of environmental intervention.
Haverfordwest now has 3 dairies. First Milk cheese, Mark Hunter who bought the milk and more business in South Wales from Muller, who does liquid and butter and now a new liquid dairy funded by WAG. You couldn’t make it up!
 

Hill Dairy

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Location
Pembrokeshire
Haverfordwest now has 3 dairies. First Milk cheese, Mark Hunter who bought the milk and more business in South Wales from Muller, who does liquid and butter and now a new liquid dairy funded by WAG. You couldn’t make it up!
That's the positive bit. Then there's the politics 🤪🙃. For us probably the lack of any common sense with tb vectors being the most detrimental.
 

Cowabunga

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Location
Ceredigion,Wales
Go ask Shakespeare!

This song epitomises the current feeling in farming. However, do note that the clouds will eventually part and the sun will surely shine again if we flex our muscles effectively and decisively. Go ask Shakespeare….

 
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West Wales
We are lucky enough to have the required tree and habitat in the form of an oak and Ash woodland valley. Sadly this valley is also home to a massive badger sett which condemns us to the endless TB roller coaster.
But how long will that be enough for them? How long until it migrates to 10% of new trees and habitat.
 

Cowabunga

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Location
Ceredigion,Wales
I don't know. I think their ultimate goal is 30% managed as habitat.
Even if that could be justified, which I doubt, it should be of all land, not 30% of each individual farm. Their aim should be to maximise the efficient use of suitable land while incentivising some farms and farmers to retire completely. Otherwise every farm food producing business will be crippled and no longer viable as a business. Imagine if they told every supermarket, petrol station, pub, cafe, accountant, doctor, that they must cut down their business by 30% long term and 20% over a fairly short term. How many of those businesses would remain viable and how many would go bust or otherwise fail financially? Imagine the stink and unrest it would cause, especially if they imposed stinging extra legislation to beat them down with simultaneously, such as they had to increase their storage by double and could not operate the till for four months of the year and were banned from advertising or buying more stock [think N fertiliser and slurry equivalents].
 

DairyNerd

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Livestock Farmer
There definitely needs to be more focus on farming good land 'well' which would then make 'rewilding' or very low input farming on the more marginal land make sense. There is so much land in every area of the country farmed poorly, lots of ground probably doesn't even operate at 50% of it's potential production level. If it did we could probably be much more self sufficient in food production and have more areas set aside for nature at the same time.
 

Cowabunga

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Location
Ceredigion,Wales
There definitely needs to be more focus on farming good land 'well' which would then make 'rewilding' or very low input farming on the more marginal land make sense. There is so much land in every area of the country farmed poorly, lots of ground probably doesn't even operate at 50% of it's potential production level. If it did we could probably be much more self sufficient in food production and have more areas set aside for nature at the same time.
All that land probably already qualifies on every metric, so why not count all that land against the 20% they require EVERY farm to effectively take out of serious food production? Why not allow farmers the freedom to farm, like they do in America?
 

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