AB8 seed mixes

[MrNoo]

Has anyone got any recommendations for these mixes? I see they differ markedly in price, quotes I have had so far have ranged from £14k to £54k for 156ha worth with quite a few in-between. And are they 80:20 flower mixes or 85:15. Any particularly good mixes, would rather do it right but £54k seems a tad on the high side!!!

 

[Luke Cropwalker]

From what I have seen of the price for some of these seed mixes the trade are wanting a substantial slice of the SFI money.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

The one we sell has 7% Flower rate Same as IMP2 comes to 30 k before discount

 

[Chris F]

Has anyone got any recommendations for these mixes? I see they differ markedly in price, quotes I have had so far have ranged from £14k to £54k for 156ha worth with quite a few in-between. And are they 80:20 flower mixes or 85:15. Any particularly good mixes, would rather do it right but £54k seems a tad on the high side!!!

For that quantity you would want to buy through @Farmdeals, but this is the product mix on Farm Marketplace:

IMP2 / AB8 Flower Rich Margins Seed (Acre Pack) (SFI)

IMP2 / AB8 Flower Rich Margins Seed (Acre Pack) (SFI) - Contains UK native Wildflowers and low maintenance grasses

www.marketplace.farm

 

[MrNoo]

For that quantity you would want to buy through Farmdeals, but this is the product mix on Farm Marketplace:

IMP2 / AB8 Flower Rich Margins Seed (Acre Pack) (SFI)

IMP2 / AB8 Flower Rich Margins Seed (Acre Pack) (SFI) - Contains UK native Wildflowers and low maintenance grasses

www.marketplace.farm

Yes I have contacted them at lunchtime, received a quote thanks

 

[Chris F]

Yes I have contacted them at lunchtime, received a quote thanks

Do you have to stick to the 8kg per acre? Or is that their suggestion? I still learning about all this SFI stuff and Lucy asked me the same question when setting them up.

 

[MrNoo]

Do you have to stick to the 8kg per acre? Or is that their suggestion? I still learning about all this SFI stuff and Lucy asked me the same question when setting them up.

Not a clue, it’s all new to me too!! Most say 20kg/ha which I guess is the same as you suggest!!

 

[Great In Grass]

We suggest 20kg/ha seed rate.

 

[Chris F]

Not a clue, it’s all new to me too!! Most say 20kg/ha which I guess is the same as you suggest!!

Those selling are going to "suggest" that you use more though. But what's the actual rule? Would SFI still pay out if you did it at 15kg/hectare?

I should have asked this in the Q and A on Friday.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

For that quantity you would want to buy through @Farmdeals, but this is the product mix on Farm Marketplace:

IMP2 / AB8 Flower Rich Margins Seed (Acre Pack) (SFI)

IMP2 / AB8 Flower Rich Margins Seed (Acre Pack) (SFI) - Contains UK native Wildflowers and low maintenance grasses

www.marketplace.farm

Thats a Hurrells mix

 

[MrNoo]

Thats a Hurrells mix

Yes and that was who I asked for a quote from and received.

 

[Great In Grass]

Those selling are going to "suggest" that you use more though. But what's the actual rule? Would SFI still pay out if you did it at 15kg/hectare?

I should have asked this in the Q and A on Friday.

I have some AB8 mixes which state 15-20kg/ha.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Thestated seed rate on AB8 was 20 kg
"Sow at 20kg Ha to provid enough plants"

but on IPM2 is states that its up to you do decide the seed rate with your seed suppier

 

[jrss]

Has anyone got any recommendations for these mixes? I see they differ markedly in price, quotes I have had so far have ranged from £14k to £54k for 156ha worth with quite a few in-between. And are they 80:20 flower mixes or 85:15. Any particularly good mixes, would rather do it right but £54k seems a tad on the high side!!!

This is the mix I drilled a couple of years ago and has established very well.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

AP2 Eco Wildflower Seed Mix (without grass)
This is the wildflower mux thats added to our Hurrells mix
Wildflowers : Corn Chamomile, Corn Cockle, Corn Marigold, Corn Poppy, Cornflower, Common Vetch, Birdsfoot Trefoil, Buttercup Mix, Common Knapweed, Hairy Vetch, Ladys Bedstraw, Lucerne, Oxeye Daisy, Phacelia, Red Campion, Sainfoin, Salad Burnet, Self Heal, White Campion, Wild Carrot, Yarrow & Yellow Rattle

 

[Derrick Hughes]

I priced some up for a Customer today
The same as the Hurrells mix £186.50 Ha Delivered
£75.50 acre
There are cheaper mixes but not as good a spec

 

[Kevtherev]

@MrNoo May be worth speaking to Oliver seeds /DLF for advice and information.

 

[MrNoo]

Many thanks all for your suggestions and “quotes” I have done a deal with Great in Grass for a mix with a few extras included so will let you know how I get on!! Next thing is how to drill it, suspect Vaddy will be the machine I use.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Many thanks all for your suggestions and “quotes” I have done a deal with Great in Grass for a mix with a few extras included so will let you know how I get on!! Next thing is how to drill it, suspect Vaddy will be the machine I use.

Is it into stubble
But the one main point is those seeds need to go in shallow l
My prefered machine is a Tine Harrow

 

[MrNoo]

Some this spring into worked ground and the rest possibly into stubble depending on how bad the WW is re black grass and if we are going to continue with it or glypho, never had a pre emm as too wet.