Abershedder

ISCO

Member
Location
North East
I don't know, haven't read the facebook post. If so, then it removes once concern that I would have about them i.e. how consistent will shedding be. But I've read very mixed reviews of the Aberfield on here and heard similar from people I know.
We lost our Aberfield tup after 1 season with pizzle rot. It was a blessing!.
He went onto swales with very disappointing results.
 

Al R

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
West Wales
We lost our Aberfield tup after 1 season with pizzle rot. It was a blessing!.
He went onto swales with very disappointing results.
2 AF were bought, £2000 in orbenin later we cleared the pink eye. We lost 1 within a few months and the other we kept for a few years until it lost all its teeth, trying it on a few different type of ewes from welsh, mules and Texels, between bad mothering, mastitis and teeth going by 4 year old they’ve almost all self eradicated themselves, speaking to a few others they all had exact experience’s.

There is only so long you can sell sand to Arabs.
 

Sheepfog

Member
Location
Southern England
Very happy with my Aberfield crossbred ewes. Great mums - although that probably comes from the hill ewe. Don't scan ridiculously high:180-190% which is plenty for outdoor lambing. Lamb quality a step up from mules.

But, I would be very wary of buying an Innovis bred sheep in the future as their health status just isn't consistent enough. I know of a few farmers who have had problems with iceberg diseases in bought in rams. IMHO all their multipliers should be MV accredited and tested clear of other iceberg diseases.

For replacements I am planning to put a Logie maternal hybrid onto these ewes having heard good reports from other farmers. Logie Durno also have a very high health status, which is important as my whole flock is now all MV accredited for ease of management.
 

Electricfencer

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Cotswolds
Very happy with my Aberfield crossbred ewes. Great mums - although that probably comes from the hill ewe. Don't scan ridiculously high:180-190% which is plenty for outdoor lambing. Lamb quality a step up from mules.

But, I would be very wary of buying an Innovis bred sheep in the future as their health status just isn't consistent enough. I know of a few farmers who have had problems with iceberg diseases in bought in rams. IMHO all their multipliers should be MV accredited and tested clear of other iceberg diseases.

For replacements I am planning to put a Logie maternal hybrid onto these ewes having heard good reports from other farmers. Logie Durno also have a very high health status, which is important as my whole flock is now all MV accredited for ease of management.
I didn’t know they weren’t mv accreted. That will probably be the end of them if they start spreading that about!
 

Bill dog

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Scottish Borders
2 AF were bought, £2000 in orbenin later we cleared the pink eye. We lost 1 within a few months and the other we kept for a few years until it lost all its teeth, trying it on a few different type of ewes from welsh, mules and Texels, between bad mothering, mastitis and teeth going by 4 year old they’ve almost all self eradicated themselves, speaking to a few others they all had exact experience’s.

There is only so long you can sell sand to Arabs.
Aberselferadicator might not be a catchy enough trade name for them ! 🤦‍♂️😂
 
Most of their flocks aren’t Mv accredited, but that doesn’t mean they have it, or are likely to ‘spread it about’.
They’d likely be a safer bet, on that score at least, than a lot of market Tups.
I know of one flock that was going to sell tups of their own breeding at an Innovis sale and they had to undertake flock screening for iceberg diseases beforehand.
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
2 AF were bought, £2000 in orbenin later we cleared the pink eye. We lost 1 within a few months and the other we kept for a few years until it lost all its teeth, trying it on a few different type of ewes from welsh, mules and Texels, between bad mothering, mastitis and teeth going by 4 year old they’ve almost all self eradicated themselves, speaking to a few others they all had exact experience’s.

There is only so long you can sell sand to Arabs.
Yes, but apart from that?😂

When the Arab’s stop buying your sand, maybe you should just move on to a different tribe of Arab’s?
Will the Scot’s embrace them as willingly as a lot of Welsh shepherds did?
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
I know of one flock that was going to sell tups of their own breeding at an Innovis sale and they had to undertake flock screening for iceberg diseases beforehand.
Yes, I understood they screened for disease, rather than go down the accreditation route, which only covers a couple of icebergs anyway.

@Tim W ‘s group do the same I believe.
 

Rejuvenating swards: Which option is best?

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Written by Brian McDonnell

Maintaining grass quality during mid-season grazing is important. Farmers can maintain quality by entering ideal grazing covers of 1,300 – 1,500kg DM/ha, and grazing down to a residual of 4cm every rotation.

If you are now in a situation where cows are not cleaning out paddocks as well as they should be, leading to the development of steamy grass within the sward, here are some options.

Common options for rejuvenating swards include:

  1. Take a silage cut, probably into bales, remove the material and start again with the aftermath...
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