AI in sucklers

[Danllan]

...Pay a semen storage with genus every month then the price of the straws on top which range from £10 - £60/70 ish. Each visit from the technician is also charged on top as well.

Conception rates last year have been fairly good , struggled in the heat with detection.

Hope this helps. .

Assuming you spot the bulling alright, it all depends on how good your AI man is...

 

[Samcowman]

Currently looking at some AI options for my first go with it this year.
What’s you Simmental guys thoughts on Dinton Nautical?

 

[Aspiring Peasant]

Has anyone used hamlet on heifers? Have some lovely blue x heifers to bull next month
@shearerlad ?

Had 2 blue heifers calve to Hamlet last autumn. Both calved on their own

 

[Aspiring Peasant]

Emslies Galileo might be ok. 3 points behind hamlet in the catalogue for calving. Also his father was top of the beef value league for a number of years.

Also had a couple calved to Galileo unassisted.

 

[Ewe2]

Has anyone used hamlet on heifers? Have some lovely blue x heifers to bull next month
@shearerlad ?

We’ve used hamlet on a dozen or so Charolais heifers. Extremely easy calving, never touched one of them. Small calves born, up and sucking straight away.

 

[Haydn Lloyd]

I just used hamlet on heifers some roan lim x blues and a ex show heifer from a huntershall bull. Hopefully go to plan

 

[andyt87]

Currently looking at some AI options for my first go with it this year.
What’s you Simmental guys thoughts on Dinton Nautical?

Had 16 calve to him last year. Tends to run about a week over, and wouldn't put him on heifers but only assistance on 2 sets of twins. Good temperament, and make good replacements that will calve at 2 yrs old. Steers are decent but think there would be better out there.

2 Yr old heifer

4 month heifers

5 month bullock

 

[muleman]

We,ve bulled bluex lim heifers with hamlet and some with Lorenzo...havnt calved them yet though.
But i would say hamlet will be fine but lorenzo might be pushing it?
Time will tell!

 

[Samcowman]

Had 16 calve to him last year. Tends to run about a week over, and wouldn't put him on heifers but only assistance on 2 sets of twins. Good temperament, and make good replacements that will calve at 2 yrs old. Steers are decent but think there would be better out there.
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2 Yr old heifer

4 month heifers

5 month bullock

Thanks for that. It will be on Angus x cows with the aim of using replacements so should work ok.

 

[Beames]

Assuming you spot the bulling alright, it all depends on how good your AI man is...

This is true. We’ve got 3 different technicians on our round. One of very fast and the others a bit more methodical. I’m going to see who has the best conception percentage, something we haven’t done before.

 

[Northeastfarmer]

We,ve bulled bluex lim heifers with hamlet and some with Lorenzo...havnt calved them yet though.
But i would say hamlet will be fine but lorenzo might be pushing it?
Time will tell!

When are the heifers due?

 

[muleman]

When are the heifers due?

Quite a while yet,not till december so not much help to you!
Doesnt really seem an extreme muscled bull Hamlet though does he? (although bred for muscle and shape!)

 

[Danllan]

This is true. We’ve got 3 different technicians on our round. One of very fast and the others a bit more methodical. I’m going to see who has the best conception percentage, something we haven’t done before.

Good plan on your part. We use Genus and over the last, I think, three or maybe four years we have had three chaps come out. One proved a total waste of time and I won't have him again - he's never had a hit and although it's bl**dy annoying, it makes more sense to miss a go than waste money on him (I'm not sure he's still with them), a pity because he's a pleasant fellow. The second one is a young fellow who is a graduate and he's been a couple of times and scored.

The third, as well as being a very pleasant fellow, hasn't missed yet - obviously that is a very hard rate to keep up and I don't expect him to. He is also very helpful in sharing advice and isn't 'painful' in doing so. Can't score him too highly, I'm sure others around Carmarthen know him, TW.

 

[muleman]

Have to ring in by 9 am to get AI man....anyways busy lambing and missed 2 heifers a bulling ,never saw them bulling till 11 am.....will they be any good done tmrw morning or best left till next cycle...any thoughts, thanks

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Have to ring in by 9 am to get AI man....anyways busy lambing and missed 2 heifers a bulling ,never saw them bulling till 11 am.....will they be any good done tmrw morning or best left till next cycle...any thoughts, thanks

Have always been told cows are best the next day....not sure about heifers though heard they are hard to do

 

[Holsteinfriesian90]

Have to ring in by 9 am to get AI man....anyways busy lambing and missed 2 heifers a bulling ,never saw them bulling till 11 am.....will they be any good done tmrw morning or best left till next cycle...any thoughts, thanks

Definitely won’t get in calf if you don’t try them.

 

[muleman]

Have always been told cows are best the next day....not sure about heifers though heard they are hard to do

thanks, yeah,might be best to catch them next time.
Out of interest then...what about a heifer that was sleeting but never saw it riding so wasnt sure if we should do it, anyways got the AI man to have a look after he`d done another and he said it should be ok...so we did it.
Next day heifer was mad a bulling and sweated up, so in hindsight done bit soon...wonder what the chances of a hold are there?!

 

[muleman]

Definitely won’t get in calf if you don’t try them.

i`m a bit tight...dont want to waste my 60 quid!

 

[andyt87]

@Beames I'm pretty sure we'll have the same AIs if you're with Genus. Done the strike rates for the same reason as you, one is almost done before the yoke is on the cow whilst the other has a chat.

Fast one 42%, steady one 56% success on 1st service. Fast one 80%, steady one 66% success on 2nd service. I've not included cows we culled after 3rd failed service as its just bad luck for whichever AI served them. 1st service success probably depends more on if we were trying to bring calving forward for the following year.

Out of the 2 relief technicians, one had 100% 1st service failure (1 cow only), other one had 100% 2nd service success (3 cows)- small sample size to be saying one is rubbish and the other is amazing though.

Be interested to hear how your numbers work out

 

[muleman]

Bulled one of the 2 heifers with the Netherhall Jackpot son we bought last week,nice to see he`s going to work. The other heifer i will try to A I next cycle to mereside lorenzo as i want it to a good bull,we bought the heifer off one of the top show calf breeders who sold a calf last week for £9200 so hopefully will breed summat decent!