Air bubbles in baled silage? Reason for this could be? They appear shortly after being stacked.

driverone

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Bury the Trash

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Mixed Farmer
Its not air it c0 2 , and its a correct part of the 'preservation ' process , its a good sign actually,its working as it should and it shows there's a good airtight seal by the plastic.

Best thing for you to do is read up on science of silage making then you'll understand better (y)
 

Matty6270

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Hi. You might be fit to give me some advice. I e seen you have committed before on air in silage bales. . I had a big problem this year with bales and Would love to find out exact problem.
so I bought a second hand Welger 235 baler. First day out with It I went to good wilted 24 hour grass that was mowed very dry and got great sun. Fairly soon I noticed the baler wasn’t packing the bales right. Door sensors and door bushing needed calibration, but that job was for another day, I finished the 140 bales, They were very soft in the middle, they were loaded with a spike and off loaded with a spike in my yard and wrapped.
Every single bale was sagging, and very wet. They were stacked 3 high on the flat and the silage was pure yellow with water from the bottom off the bale up to 6-8 inches. The silage has no mould but is fairly dark in colour and a bad smell. Cows aren’t to fond off it either
why is the grass so wet ?
yes I need to get the baler fixed but did the bales sweat when they weren’t packed tight and that’s were the water came from ?
 

Rogstores

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Livestock Farmer
Hi. You might be fit to give me some advice. I e seen you have committed before on air in silage bales. . I had a big problem this year with bales and Would love to find out exact problem.
so I bought a second hand Welger 235 baler. First day out with It I went to good wilted 24 hour grass that was mowed very dry and got great sun. Fairly soon I noticed the baler wasn’t packing the bales right. Door sensors and door bushing needed calibration, but that job was for another day, I finished the 140 bales, They were very soft in the middle, they were loaded with a spike and off loaded with a spike in my yard and wrapped.
Every single bale was sagging, and very wet. They were stacked 3 high on the flat and the silage was pure yellow with water from the bottom off the bale up to 6-8 inches. The silage has no mould but is fairly dark in colour and a bad smell. Cows aren’t to fond off it either
why is the grass so wet ?
yes I need to get the baler fixed but did the bales sweat when they weren’t packed tight and that’s were the water came from ?
Would it not be cheaper to have someone do it with decent kit have half the bales instead of 140 bales of shite
 

David1968

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Mixed Farmer
Location
SW Scotland
Hi. You might be fit to give me some advice. I e seen you have committed before on air in silage bales. . I had a big problem this year with bales and Would love to find out exact problem.
so I bought a second hand Welger 235 baler. First day out with It I went to good wilted 24 hour grass that was mowed very dry and got great sun. Fairly soon I noticed the baler wasn’t packing the bales right. Door sensors and door bushing needed calibration, but that job was for another day, I finished the 140 bales, They were very soft in the middle, they were loaded with a spike and off loaded with a spike in my yard and wrapped.
Every single bale was sagging, and very wet. They were stacked 3 high on the flat and the silage was pure yellow with water from the bottom off the bale up to 6-8 inches. The silage has no mould but is fairly dark in colour and a bad smell. Cows aren’t to fond off it either
why is the grass so wet ?
yes I need to get the baler fixed but did the bales sweat when they weren’t packed tight and that’s were the water came from ?
Was the grass spread out and rowed up again?

If it was just 24 hour wilt in the mower swath it was maybe a lot wetter underneath than you thought it was.
 

Anymulewilldo

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Cheshire
Hi. It was mowed dry and was around 22* both days, definitely was dry going into the bale
*not wanting to sound like a pillock* but if grass is dry going into the bales, is wrapped properly and stacked in the dry it won’t come out of the bales wet. To be getting wet yellow grass out it sounds like the grass wasn’t as dry as you thought and the wrapper needs some attention
 
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v8willy

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Mixed Farmer
, they were loaded with a spike and off loaded with a spike in my yard and wrapped.
Well there is 2 big spike holes that fill with air before wrapping, not saying that's your problem but it ain't helping either.
I make 700 bales per year. I have the tractors, mower and the time so saves paying a contractor 5k per year
Go get yourself a decent bale grab with them numbers.
 

Jsmith2211

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Somerset
Well there is 2 big spike holes that fill with air before wrapping, not saying that's your problem but it ain't helping either.

Go get yourself a decent bale grab with them numbers.
recomend the mchale green squeezy things, very good, not just for silage but all round bales far far better than a spike
 

Rooney

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Arable Farmer
Grass young and leafy? Lot more moisture than you think. We bale haylage which is stemmy and dry bales hold their shape and dont slump, we stack squares 6 high in shed. If the bale slump and look more like sausage rolls.... too wet. 24hrs not much of a wilt we have had from 24 hrs to 5 days to get to 60%dm. Depends on maturity of grass as well as temperature and wind.
 

Rooney

Member
Arable Farmer
Smell likely butyric fermentation, not good, soft centre will have too much air in as well. Bale grass silage, not just haylage, needs good dry matter above 30, high density, no mud or muck, and at least 6 layer wrap. Wrapped quickly after baling.
 

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