Anti farming groups

[holywell farmer]

I sadly fear this year there voices are getting louder, extinction rebellion, vegans, plus animal rights group are spouting nonse about farming practices* I view when comes to the environment coal power stations do more harm than tractor running or someone eating beef!

 

[DRC]

You’ve missed out politicians from your list .
Can’t say they are very pro farming .
@delilah will tell you that XR want to work with farmers as part of the solution, so maybe unfair to lump them in with animal rights activists.

 

[holywell farmer]

You’ve missed out politicians from your list .
Can’t say they are very pro farming .
@delilah will tell you that XR want to work with farmers as part of the solution, so maybe unfair to lump them in with animal rights activists.

Take green party some of them want to limit the use of farm machinery which would be impractical

 

[holywell farmer]

You’ve missed out politicians from your list .
Can’t say they are very pro farming .
@delilah will tell you that XR want to work with farmers as part of the solution, so maybe unfair to lump them in with animal rights activists.

This might seem bit crazy from me but building sites are big pollution areas with skips full of rubbish and generators and engines running all day

 

[neilo]

Take green party some of them want to limit the use of farm machinery which would be impractical

So do I.

 

[Muddyroads]

We’re a bit of a soft target, but it’s made far worse by the big guys behind the scenes funding the push for plant based foods, leading people to continually believe the lies. Just look at the Meat free Monday’s thread.
At a meeting last night, I was told by a local conservationist that the average UK human carbon footprint is 15 tonnes/year. They had just planted 1Ha of woodland, which would lock up the equivalent of 1 persons emissions over its 100 year life.
Multiply that by 60 million people. We would somehow need 60 million Ha of land planted up, producing bugger all for 100 years, and the big problem of what to do with all that timber at the end of it as you couldn’t burn it or leave it to rot. Meanwhile, 60 million people still need to eat. The whole thing is rediculous.
We need to keep pushing our logical response, but not in the preachy way that the vegan brigade do. Localism has to be a better way forward, and I get the feeling more people are starting to realise that.

 

[Turkish_FR]

Vegan Armed Forces, just sayin .... they are dangerous ...

 

[RAF]

I wouldn’t worry maccys still looks busy enough

 

[holywell farmer]

So do I.

Are tractors big pollution vehicles?

 

[delilah]

You’ve missed out politicians from your list .
Can’t say they are very pro farming .
@delilah will tell you that XR want to work with farmers as part of the solution, so maybe unfair to lump them in with animal rights activists.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/XRfarmers/

Organisations I am proud to be a card carrying member of include Friends of the Earth and The Green Party. As I may have said before, the environment movement and UK agriculture are each others greatest allies. Neither can achieve their objectives without the support and participation of the other.

 

[egbert]

Are tractors big pollution vehicles?

Does a herd of cows really warrant a 900 bhp forager?
A couple of pickup wagons would be doing much same same job, but wouldn't be half as polluting.
(obviously, it doesn't make anyone such a big man if he hasn't got a great big roaring forager echoing up and down the dale........)

 

[egbert]

https://www.facebook.com/groups/XRfarmers/

Organisations I am proud to be a card carrying member of include Friends of the Earth and The Green Party. As I may have said before, the environment movement and UK agriculture are each others greatest allies. Neither can achieve their objectives without the support and participation of the other.

aah...politics.

I'm all for responsibly moving the environment discussion forward, but last time I looked, the Green party seemed to be as much about rampant socialism - or whatever flavour of leftieness it's called- as the birds and the bees.
And as a self employed businessman, that's kinda counter-intuitive for me.

I'm not sure why I should need their (either) support in my farming activities either.
I think I recall they've both surely said some stuff I find difficult to accept, and they certainly don't seem to be very vociferous in their support of my hill livestock enterprise.

 

[davidroberts30]

I sadly fear this year there voices are getting louder, extinction rebellion, vegans, plus animal rights group are spouting nonse about farming practices* I view when comes to the environment coal power stations do more harm than tractor running or someone eating beef!

you heard the saying "emptiest vessels make the most noise"?

 

[holywell farmer]

you heard the saying "emptiest vessels make the most noise"?

Yes

 

[holywell farmer]

Does a herd of cows really warrant a 900 bhp forager?
A couple of pickup wagons would be doing much same same job, but wouldn't be half as polluting.
(obviously, it doesn't make anyone such a big man if he hasn't got a great big roaring forager echoing up and down the dale........)

Tractor engines are very modern ad blue and power booster= but there probably is need to reduce emissions

 

[holywell farmer]

https://www.facebook.com/groups/XRfarmers/

Organisations I am proud to be a card carrying member of include Friends of the Earth and The Green Party. As I may have said before, the environment movement and UK agriculture are each others greatest allies. Neither can achieve their objectives without the support and participation of the other.

The green party are anti farming these control measures are ridiculous

 

[egbert]

Tractor engines are very modern ad blue and power booster= but there probably is need to reduce emissions

I'm not sure how we negotiate our way forward, but one thing is for sure. the days of burning fossil fuels is going to end at some point.

 

[Tarw Coch]

I'm not sure how we negotiate our way forward, but one thing is for sure. the days of burning fossil fuels is going to end at some point.

Can’t think what program I was watching the other night but I was amazed when they said that48% of the worlds annual coal use is in China.

 

[jondear]

Does a herd of cows really warrant a 900 bhp forager?
A couple of pickup wagons would be doing much same same job, but wouldn't be half as polluting.
(obviously, it doesn't make anyone such a big man if he hasn't got a great big roaring forager echoing up and down the dale........)

Doesn't stop top gear showing off Maclarens new car that was 1000bhp 2 million £ ..Just a rich man's toy!

 

[Tarw Coch]

Does a herd of cows really warrant a 900 bhp forager?
A couple of pickup wagons would be doing much same same job, but wouldn't be half as polluting.
(obviously, it doesn't make anyone such a big man if he hasn't got a great big roaring forager echoing up and down the dale........)

Will a forage wagon harvest maize or wholecrop? I guess it doesn’t warrant most contractors owning both hence the popularity of them harvesting grass along with their ability to cover a lot of ground in a short time.