Any others having jcb paint issues on new machine

[fermerboy]

JCB don't deserve your money. They are obviously making too many machines to give a flying fudge. Appalling for a British company. Wouldn't buy one on principle.

Agree to a point.

The bloody things aren't cheap, a basic Loadall is near £80k now, a bigger one with spec is as said near enough £100k. It beggars belief that a company the size of JCB can't prep and paint machines properly. It's not rocket science, plenty of brands, some of them small companies too, manage to get paint to stick on ok, even the newer water based paint is OK if done right.
If a car manufacturer tried selling cars with peeling paint they wouldn't last long.
I'm not a new buyer, but if every new buyer kicked off or refused a machine with paint issues they'd have to pull their socks up a bit.

 

[rusty]

Those numbers were very do-able with machines bought up to about 18 months ago. We did it ourselves with a couple of consecutive TM320S’s. The thing I’m really struggling with is the £100k asking price for a new well specced Loadall. I just can’t see these getting anywhere near the numbers of the older ones. Who’s going to pay £85,000 for a 4 year old loadall with 5000 hours? Nobody! It’ll be worth probably 50k tops, Making £10/hr depreciation.

I swap my 320S every 4 years/ 4000 hours. Just waiting for the latest (overdue) one to turn up. The cost to change this one has worked out at £9/hr, the previous change worked out at £7.50/hr.
in my experience if you are trading in your old one they tend to give you an overinflated value for it set against less discount on the new one. Lots of smoke and mirrors in my opinion.

 

[mf7480]

I swap my 320S every 4 years/ 4000 hours. Just waiting for the latest (overdue) one to turn up. The cost to change this one has worked out at £9/hr, the previous change worked out at £7.50/hr.
in my experience if you are trading in your old one they tend to give you an overinflated value for it set against less discount on the new one. Lots of smoke and mirrors in my opinion.

I wouldn’t agree with your second paragraph. On any deal I do, the part exchange is a separate thing and there’s always the option for us to either keep it or sell it privately

 

[icanshootwell]

Interesting. They must have changed the paint, as yellow was the good one.

CAT yellow is superb

 

[deleted user 837354]

Agree to a point.

The bloody things aren't cheap, a basic Loadall is near £80k now, a bigger one with spec is as said near enough £100k. It beggars belief that a company the size of JCB can't prep and paint machines properly. It's not rocket science, plenty of brands, some of them small companies too, manage to get paint to stick on ok, even the newer water based paint is OK if done right.
If a car manufacturer tried selling cars with peeling paint they wouldn't last long.
I'm not a new buyer, but if every new buyer kicked off or refused a machine with paint issues they'd have to pull their socks up a bit.

I get the impression JCB are selling so many machines into the construction sector etc or for rental/hire fleets that they aren't worried about any particular machine and just want volume out of the door.

If machines are not being prepped or painted properly then it makes you wonder about what other things are being overlooked as well, particularly on the QA side.

Fine if you are buying a machine and replacing every 3-4 years and staying within warranty, but for the poor bloke who happens to buy one second hand?

 

[Willie adie]

We have a 19 plate and you can see the paint bubbled on the cover of the boom , really is a disgrace you only spot it a sat in the seat and if you look for it, the black is a f**king disgrace

 

[Speedstar]

I get the impression JCB are selling so many machines into the construction sector etc or for rental/hire fleets that they aren't worried about any particular machine and just want volume out of the door.

If machines are not being prepped or painted properly then it makes you wonder about what other things are being overlooked as well, particularly on the QA side.

Fine if you are buying a machine and replacing every 3-4 years and staying within warranty, but for the poor bloke who happens to buy one second hand?

JCB put so many parts in there machines made in china & india were there is cheap labour , it is let the company down a lot & very disappointing , paint work has gone down hill from about 1995 & in the last 10 years it is just a joke

 

[Willie adie]

I was told that the steel used for the cab where the black is really sh!t was kept outdoors

 

[deleted user 837354]

I was told that the steel used for the cab where the black is really sh!t was kept outdoors

It is ok to store uncoated steel outdoors and will be done extensively by many companies, not least because it will rust anyway. It is, however, very important that before any painting is done, that the steel is first treated, dipped, shot blasted or whatever to remove this layer of rust and give the undercoat a perfect surface to form on. As British Leyland found to their cost, if you paint steel that is already rusty and pitted, it will continue to rust under the paint.