ASH TREES

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Going on from the die back thread could anyone with beautiful larger Ash trees take photos and post on here as a library log of what will shortly be missing please
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som farmer

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found some old photo's of here, pre dutch elm, the amount of elms that went, completely altered the countryside, to a staggering amount, if the ash go as well, it really doesn't want thinking about.
Laying a hedge, several years ago, an ash stump, had been laid, the 'laid' bit had grown up, and been laid, and i was the 3rd, person to lay, 30 meters from the 'stump' each way !
 
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som farmer

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its awful looking back, the sheer no's of elms that went, reminiscing like this, starts you remembering, 2 thick shelter belts, are now single hedge, another massive elm, using water, once down, a bog, they were everywhere, planted as wind breaks, to enhance views etc, if the ash go.........
 

som farmer

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not cutting down, chopping up, elm was on the knotty side. Best wood I have ever chopped up, was acaicia, in the hedge surrounding a park, the record, 6 foot length, 1 axe chop, yellow wood, burnt well.
 
I had a lot of beautiful 250 year old ash trees, but they all died in the last 10 years. I know they were over 250 years as I counted the rings while sawing them

what age can they get to before natural death?
 

Green oak

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This one never seems too want too give up. Plenty of broken limbs over the year
 

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vantage

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According to a recent article on the BBC Ash Die back may not be as bad as was originally envisaged. While it will be serious in Ash plantations, where there are individual trees in stands or small groups in isolated areas, the disease has little effect on young healthy trees.
Not helped by councils chopping all roadside Ash trees down.
 

Kiwi Pete

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I suppose a lot of these old old trees got so big and stayed big because of the huge amount of work involved in cutting them?
Most old trees (not all, mind) were "working trees", that is they were planted for forage and shade, wood, thatch production - rather than amenity value. Just been watching some videos about it as that's what we want "to reinvent" here - pollarding for drought reserve as a form of silvopasture/permaculture. Kinda ironic twist that this "cutting edge climate-change stuff" was in effect in the UK a thousand years ago and then largely replaced by a less resilient food system... all I can say is those old trees have earnt a place.

Look after them as monuments.
 

som farmer

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every thing goes full circle in the end, dicky trees on roadsides, are a liability, we had one come down across road, iron railings and hedge, of someone's garden, a barristers, lets just say, they milked every penny you could think of, plus a lot more.
 

Henarar

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I had a lot of beautiful 250 year old ash trees, but they all died in the last 10 years. I know they were over 250 years as I counted the rings while sawing them

what age can they get to before natural death?
Had one come down the winter before last was 4 foot at the bottom but haven't counted the rings, got another that isnt much smaller that will have to be felled
 

som farmer

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this is where 'policy' is wrong, these trees were planted, to be used, elms made coffins etc, but the 'balance' was always maintained by planting new ones. Today, all these trees are taken to be, forever trees, and protected, but no allowance is made for the fact that, they grow, they mature, they die, and in dyeing, they are used. Conserving them, is pretty useless, they die, and make firewood ! Far more sensible, to use, and replant.
 

Nithsdale

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According to a recent article on the BBC Ash Die back may not be as bad as was originally envisaged. While it will be serious in Ash plantations, where there are individual trees in stands or small groups in isolated areas, the disease has little effect on young healthy trees.


No - young trees are more susceptible. But young or old they can both meet the same eventual fate.



It is still expected to wipe out most of the Ash population, eventually

 

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