Bit coin scam

ColinV6

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I had some money (not a lot) invested in BTC a couple of months back. Made a decent profit in a month, way way way above what it would ever earn in the bank.

I switched to an alternative coin and currently down, But the entire market is down at the moment. Bitcoin massively.
I can’t even begin to explain how exactly it all works, but if you put in what you are comfortable with losing... I think there’s decent rewards vs risk.
 

Pasty

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The issue I have with Bitcoin is the sheer market cap. It takes a lot of financial energy to pump the price. Like government level. Elon just killed it and everything else went with it. It's not a scam, anymore than gold. But if you are in crypto you have to roll with the punches. Of course, HEX has performed best out of all of it but then I did mention that many months ago and apparently that is also a scam. Do your own research as usual.
 

Pasty

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Devon
My own view is that Etherium has more top side than BTC for the next while. Not financial advice of course. I don't hold either.
 

str2mslf

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Crypto would be ok with me if not for ecological impact of mining rigs and desecrated supply of PC parts (GPUs, PSUs and storage). Also it's unregulated and used by criminals to transfer funds globally, scammers use it to protect own identity while encrypting data on private, public and corporate devices and servers with ransomware. In my opinion cryptocurrency is the worst thing that was created in last decade. Anyone that promotes it and spreads it should be ashamed of themselves.
 

Pasty

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Devon
Crypto would be ok with me if not for ecological impact of mining rigs and desecrated supply of PC parts (GPUs, PSUs and storage). Also it's unregulated and used by criminals to transfer funds globally, scammers use it to protect own identity while encrypting data on private, public and corporate devices and servers with ransomware. In my opinion cryptocurrency is the worst thing that was created in last decade. Anyone that promotes it and spreads it should be ashamed of themselves.
Those things are true of proof of work models such as Bitcoin but not of proof of stake models such as Hex in which no miners are involved. Bitcoin mining is responsible for 0.07% of the worlds electricity use according to some studies so I'm not defending it and as I said, I don't have any. But there are other cryptos which use very little energy and probably far less than a string of high street banks and office buildings. Etherium is the second largest and at some point will be merging to a proof of stake model to get rid of mining.
 

Pasty

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Devon
It was £46K one month ago now it's only £31K and falling.
As ever, the impatient buy the top and sell the bottom to the patient. It has ever been thus in all markets. Crypto is particularly volatile. Mind you Amazon stock once fell 95% in one day and now accounts for 50% of all US internet sales. Plus worldwide.
 

str2mslf

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Those things are true of proof of work models such as Bitcoin but not of proof of stake models such as Hex in which no miners are involved. Bitcoin mining is responsible for 0.07% of the worlds electricity use according to some studies so I'm not defending it and as I said, I don't have any. But there are other cryptos which use very little energy and probably far less than a string of high street banks and office buildings. Etherium is the second largest and at some point will be merging to a proof of stake model to get rid of mining.
To me it sound like you are defending it. It can be 0.07% or 0.000000001% it's still a waste of energy. You don't fold proteins like it happens in BOINC or other programs. You just waste computing power and energy for calculating of hashes to help criminals to hide their assets. And we both know that mining is popular in countries where coal and oil are main energy sources in power plants. My opinion is from a stand of avid PC user, that can't buy GPU for 12 months now. And now you hear news about CHIA that will do the same thing to storage (SSD's and NAS drives) as ETH did to GPU's. Crypto is fool's gold.
 

Pasty

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Devon
I'm not defending it because of that factor. Mining is a disaster but at least ETH are trying to do something about it through the upcoming merge to V2.0. I'm not familiar with CHIA I'm afraid but it sounds good that bought my SSD a few days ago.
 

Pasty

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Devon
Markets for coins have been crazy today. ETH went from 2300 to 1475 and now back up to 2000.
There had to be a correction at some point I guess after recent gains. Some people, especially margin traders will be totally rekt today if they went long. Flash crash, margin call, game over.
 

Chris F

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There had to be a correction at some point I guess after recent gains. Some people, especially margin traders will be totally rekt today if they went long. Flash crash, margin call, game over.

If the trend follows 2017 then bitcoin will head back down to £14k. Was briefly down at £22k today. bounced a little but on its way down now. Lets see how much china puts the boot in tonight.
 

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