I agree... whatever the issue at hand it's not a scrupulous one.Strange how the original poster of this thread has decided not to answer the above questions, even though he has been on TFF !!
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Buyer wants refund after auction
- Thread starter Tatto
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mwj
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- Location
- Illinois USA
Looking at op posting history. Some replies were to tiff. Have they had a name change? It is very odd that they do not reply.
kiwi pom
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- Location
- canterbury NZ
No idea of the legal side of things.
Not sure anyone's asked, if the situation was reversed and you were the buyer, would you be happy?
I realise buying at an auction is a risk, but there's risk and there's being conned.
Tom8400
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- Location
- oxfordshire
Maybe it's a curve ball.
Good one Clive and the admin great thread to get everyone posting
If it is a genuine thread the OP doesn't sound genuine and has almost admitted guilt on the first page, stating buyer beware. if you were stopped by police that would certainly see you in a cell.
I thought all sales were sold as seen, dispersal's are normally ok added on lots or collective sales you have to think why is it there. But to put something in any sale and say in working order if it isn't would be asking for trouble surely you'd just say nothing
Good one Clive and the admin great thread to get everyone posting
If it is a genuine thread the OP doesn't sound genuine and has almost admitted guilt on the first page, stating buyer beware. if you were stopped by police that would certainly see you in a cell.
I thought all sales were sold as seen, dispersal's are normally ok added on lots or collective sales you have to think why is it there. But to put something in any sale and say in working order if it isn't would be asking for trouble surely you'd just say nothing
- Location
- Summer set
I always have a rule with collective sales, if it has more than 3 moving parts don’t buy it.
Admin have more energy than me if they are setting up spurious threads for self amusement... just another chancer I'd sayMaybe it's a curve ball.
Good one Clive and the admin great thread to get everyone posting
If it is a genuine thread the OP doesn't sound genuine and has almost admitted guilt on the first page, stating buyer beware. if you were stopped by police that would certainly see you in a cell.
I thought all sales were sold as seen, dispersal's are normally ok added on lots or collective sales you have to think why is it there. But to put something in any sale and say in working order if it isn't would be asking for trouble surely you'd just say nothing
- Location
- sw scotland
I see Tatto has bought a field of fodder beet which is not fit for purpose. Bit like his machine.
Karma if the fodder beet belonged to the man who bought the machine
Karma if the fodder beet belonged to the man who bought the machine
Over the years I’ve bought and sold a lot of stuff at auction, mostly because you can get some cheap tat to do a one off job then shift it on again, and always a few bargains to be had, but, it’s certainly buyer beware, you can also get your fingers severly burnt sometimes.
Don’t think I’ve EVER been to, or read an auction catalogue that didn’t have some kind of small print saying, ‘to the best of auctioneers knowledge’ or ‘whilst every effort has been made we cannot be held responsible for errors, omissions or mistakes’
the general consensus is,
buy at auction at your own risk, UNLESS it clearly states something in the lot description to give some kind of guarantee or assurance.
the unwritten rule, farm dispersals are usually ok with the normal wear, tear broken bits, collective sales are somewhere to offload the shite.
now, having said all that, something isn’t sticking up for me, lack of info, why has the buyer approached vendor not auctioneers , why hasn’t the op given info and responded to questions.
And, why the hell did he have something checked over by a dealer before it went into a sale, that’s just money wasted unless you thought there was a problem to be fixed so to sell with a clear conscience.
whenever I’ve sold crap, I make no bones that it’s crap, we all know the rules of auction but it still feels wrong to sell something crap and pretend it’s good
Don’t think I’ve EVER been to, or read an auction catalogue that didn’t have some kind of small print saying, ‘to the best of auctioneers knowledge’ or ‘whilst every effort has been made we cannot be held responsible for errors, omissions or mistakes’
the general consensus is,
buy at auction at your own risk, UNLESS it clearly states something in the lot description to give some kind of guarantee or assurance.
the unwritten rule, farm dispersals are usually ok with the normal wear, tear broken bits, collective sales are somewhere to offload the shite.
now, having said all that, something isn’t sticking up for me, lack of info, why has the buyer approached vendor not auctioneers , why hasn’t the op given info and responded to questions.
And, why the hell did he have something checked over by a dealer before it went into a sale, that’s just money wasted unless you thought there was a problem to be fixed so to sell with a clear conscience.
whenever I’ve sold crap, I make no bones that it’s crap, we all know the rules of auction but it still feels wrong to sell something crap and pretend it’s good
betweenthelines
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- Location
- southwest
Seller couldn't harvest Tatto's beet 'cos the fork handle broke when he tried to load 'em!
- Location
- Scottish Highlands
I haven't read the whole thread but the auction will have been conducted according to published conditions of sale which are freely available from the auction company. Auctioneers have a professional body and must adhere to standards. If this is going to court, the OP is quite right to keep his mouth shut or the court may decide undue influence has been brought to bear. "No comment for legal reasons".
I would be very suprised if this made it to court, unless, there is a lot more to it than has been let on
- Location
- Dumfries & Galloway
OP went quiet...
I reckon he's gone to court confident of winning... but he lost and he was hung in the morning for selling a 10lb hammer wrongly listed as a 14lb hammer
I reckon he's gone to court confident of winning... but he lost and he was hung in the morning for selling a 10lb hammer wrongly listed as a 14lb hammer
And was a beet harvester
Are you suggesting some unscrupulous turd sold a perfect working knackered beet harvester?! It will likely fall on the auctioneer, but if the auctioneer works by the book and seller misadvertised it, it will come back on the seller.
Or Tatto bought a field of beet at auction & its been under water, frosted & now not as described
Maybe, might just have had bad luck this week... I find it odd when members arrive with this sort of issue. . Lack of description of the issue rings alarm bells though
- Location
- Scottish Highlands
Me too, but anyone with half a brain would heed the warning not to try and influence events by using social media!
- Location
- somerset
seen stuff described as 'repair or parts', you know then.
but it really comes down to price paid, if it was bought 'cheap' pretty obvious, but sold for strong money, buyer has a right to be p1ssed off.
but, buyer beware, is the general rule, and lots of us have been caught out, and had to take the hit.
something about this post, just doesn't sound quite right, there's alway's two sides to a disagreement, and we are only hearing one side, and bugger all detail, to form, or suggest a solution, is impossible without knowing details.
and any 'dispute' should be through the auctioneers, who should have a good idea of what is right, or wrong.
perhaps the auctioneers have told both parties to sort it out between them, as they think there is a problem, and vendor is refusing to 'sort it out'.
but without further information, it looks a pretty dubious post, more to it than we know about.
or could be totally genuine
but it really comes down to price paid, if it was bought 'cheap' pretty obvious, but sold for strong money, buyer has a right to be p1ssed off.
but, buyer beware, is the general rule, and lots of us have been caught out, and had to take the hit.
something about this post, just doesn't sound quite right, there's alway's two sides to a disagreement, and we are only hearing one side, and bugger all detail, to form, or suggest a solution, is impossible without knowing details.
and any 'dispute' should be through the auctioneers, who should have a good idea of what is right, or wrong.
perhaps the auctioneers have told both parties to sort it out between them, as they think there is a problem, and vendor is refusing to 'sort it out'.
but without further information, it looks a pretty dubious post, more to it than we know about.
or could be totally genuine
Dave W
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- Location
- chesterfield
What has price got to do with it?
If it made good money then another man obviously thought it was ok.
If at any point it was described as working order then that does alter things
- Location
- somerset
or bought cheap, as a bargain, works both ways.
price paid, gives an indication of the state of the 'lot'
as always, buyer beware.