I don't do either - i have people for that. But 'truths' posts suggest the way being pursued isn't the only one.
Cattle tagging regulation change?
- Thread starter Pan mixer
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i'm afraid that's the whole problem with FMD.
By the time you know it's about and you've got it, it's waaaaay too late.
This discussion (or at least the 6 day standstill element) is about minimising how many angels can cram onto the head of the pin to boogie on down.
I occasionally pick up a beast with no tags at all.
(for some reason, almost every tag type we've used has batches more prone to breaking/going absent...one age group is badly effected at the minute)
Now it's only because i know my beasts and system well enough that I can nail down who such a creature is.
but it illustrates what an utter nonsense this all is.
We were told when EID for sheep came in -with a straight face- that it would help with security, and stop those pesky rustlers.
When someone accidentally gathers one of my hill ewes and clips her -as can happen in some quarters-, and she comes home with her lamb bearing someone elses tags, I simply snip them out and send them home in an envelope.........
(for some reason, almost every tag type we've used has batches more prone to breaking/going absent...one age group is badly effected at the minute)
Now it's only because i know my beasts and system well enough that I can nail down who such a creature is.
but it illustrates what an utter nonsense this all is.
We were told when EID for sheep came in -with a straight face- that it would help with security, and stop those pesky rustlers.
When someone accidentally gathers one of my hill ewes and clips her -as can happen in some quarters-, and she comes home with her lamb bearing someone elses tags, I simply snip them out and send them home in an envelope.........
yep the six day standstill will mean that there are less on/off movements in the time before anyone realised F and M is around and all movements are stopped, as I said simple fact the more movements the more spread or at least the more opportunity for it to spread
2YardOfLard
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How does that happen where there is no mobile coverage?
Timbo
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You still scan the beast and enter the details of what you have done (movement / drugs etc) and when you come back into signal (4G / wifi) it uploads.
I realise we are where we are, but you could argue that the whole shenanigans hasn't made a jot of difference to the cattle/sheep you buy and the stockmanship that goes into looking after them , but having spent some time preparing for a RT inspection this week, and so, having not wormed and fly sprayed the last bunch of lambs as a consequence, I am wondering if the tail isn't wagging the dog, and having played with eid, reading tags for meds and moves etc, for the last 4 yrs, what a waste of time, lots of data which will be never looked at, just because we can doesn't mean we have too, you see all those sad beesss that walk about, sit with their families go about their lives, who cannot lift their weary eyes from that little screen as though their life depended on it? they are in charge, old mans rant over, just going out to chuck a dead sheep over into the neighbours.
2YardOfLard
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That would involve a boat & a 4 hour trip most days!
So my 4g WiFi uploads the data when I get back to a signal,Err no that doesn’t work either.Even BT smart hub thing is useless.Once again the boffins think we are all on super fast boardband and wonderful phone signals.My mobile works in one place on the farm,stood in the doorway to the grain store exactly 3 ft from right hand side.
Scholsey
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Well thats annoying just ordered a run of 200 tags instead of 100 tags for a change as always seem to run out of tags before i realise i was low.
You're managing to post on here though?
Looks like you are going to need a arm chair for the grain store with the time you will spend there
Is this a tag Co you often use, and how long do 200 last?
did they give you warning that it's all changing?
Scholsey
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Ordered via wynnstay to be honest will use 200 in 18 months
I suspect you'll be OK. We're sticking to shorter timetables though....just in case
gone up the hill
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So lets get this straight...
@Guy Smith say's the NFU cannot justify sending letters to members about EID tagging of cattle because of the cost of a 50p stamp per member.
Yet he doesn't see any issue for every NFU member of having to shell out thousands of ££S for readers/ electronic tags/ re tagging cattle with EID tags etc etc.
Just beggars belief that Guy Smith and Minette batters cannot see the irony of that!!
As for Mo, I never thought you were so gullible as to believe everything the likes of MB says without questioning it/ getting answers for yourself, maybe this explains why the little groups of farmers the NFU ask about things like EID and always support what the NFU want to do/ introduce are so far removed from the views of ordinary grassroots NFU farmer members!
@Guy Smith say's the NFU cannot justify sending letters to members about EID tagging of cattle because of the cost of a 50p stamp per member.
Yet he doesn't see any issue for every NFU member of having to shell out thousands of ££S for readers/ electronic tags/ re tagging cattle with EID tags etc etc.
Just beggars belief that Guy Smith and Minette batters cannot see the irony of that!!
As for Mo, I never thought you were so gullible as to believe everything the likes of MB says without questioning it/ getting answers for yourself, maybe this explains why the little groups of farmers the NFU ask about things like EID and always support what the NFU want to do/ introduce are so far removed from the views of ordinary grassroots NFU farmer members!
The point I was making is that in this day and age there are more efficient ways of getting information and messages out to members other than letters.
We have used most NFU comms channels to raise awareness in the membership about the proposed new LIPs. But it should be remembered it is a government scheme not an NFU one. Most people I’ve talked to are satisfied it’s an improvement on the old systems.
But I’m sure like any new scheme there will be practical issues that will need ironing out, it will involve inconvenience at first and there will be farmers who will need bringing up to speed.
But I’m conscious that in my own farming if every time something new and challenging came along I ran for the hills kicking and screaming then I wouldn’t have seen any of the considerable technical improvements I have witnessed and benefitted from. I’ve no appetite to want to return to the days of the hessian sack.