claas vario or what ever its called any good?

[seedman stains]

I ve seen a few for sale lately even over here and they seem reasonably priced I remember something being said a while ago that after a certain year they were better(perhaps someone can find it for me) any users have any comments or any horror stories?
Is it the same box in the 4 & 6 cylinder arion
Im probably looking at the new shape model that was from about 2013, did they have an up grade with the change in front axle?
The shape seems to have stayed the same and the models numbers havent altered like some makes who add some thing extra each time they make an update
Any info greatly appreciated

 

[Chae1]

Don't know about reliability. But it's great to drive. We'd a 870 Axion demonstrator with that gearbox and couldn't fault it.

 

[KB6930]

Arion cmatic vario only started in 2015 I know this because we hired a claas arion for 2 yrs and I got the option of a cmatic but got taken for a go in an axion . I know a lad who did get 1 in 2015 and it was a real dog of a thing it was plagued with issues.

I l ow of a 660 locally I think it'll be 2yrs old at most and its been fine and they love it

 

[Case290]

I like the 650 cis+ 4700 hrs 6 yr old been fine bar silly things like door handles & gas struts . Only been on light jobs like spraying tho round baler. Thinks need checking in them tho the rear hitch came loose and about 6 hyd pipes under the cab I had to tighten up.
660 next will it pull as well ?

 

[principal skinner]

Got a 660, 1500 hours in 18 months. Faultless.

 

[daveydiesel1]

Got a 660, 1500 hours in 18 months. Faultless.

Whats it like for fuel consumption with the deere engine?

 

[Case290]

I had a jd 7530 before now a 650 claas and the claas uses fair bit more fuel

 

[daveydiesel1]

I had a jd 7530 before now a 650 claas and the claas uses fair bit more fuel

She must be thirsty if thats the case as a 30 series liked a drink. Youd wonder they dont fit a cummins or deutz in all thier tractors as its not a competitor of thiers

 

[Case290]

When I was looking also had a Fendt on demo and that was the worst. But was extra few hp but the comfiest buy a mile

 

[daveydiesel1]

When I was looking also had a Fendt on demo and that was the worst. But was extra few hp but the comfiest buy a mile

The fendt would usually be very economical so thats hard to understand

 

[principal skinner]

Whats it like for fuel consumption with the deere engine?

Will have a look to see what it has averaged per hour. Working at 100% engine load is 32/33 lts hour

 

[davidroberts30]

@del_boy

 

[del_boy]

We've got a new 660 in March. Really like the tractor so far.
The gearbox does have a few settings where you can either load the transmission or the engine depending what jobs it's on. We do alot of baling with outs, driven on pedal mode it comes to a stop pretty good without using the brakes at all.
The one really good feature I like is when you've got a trailer on with air brakes if you pulll back on the stick it activates the trailer brakes which is really good I find.
It's still early days yet but overall it's a good tractor with a really good dealer backup

 

[KB6930]

She must be thirsty if thats the case as a 30 series liked a drink. Youd wonder they dont fit a cummins or deutz in all thier tractors as its not a competitor of thiers

650/660 claas is the R series engine . The old shape was always an engine behind the deere but the new shapes from 2013 ish deere started supplying them the current engine for emissions regs . So no surprise it'll use more than a 30 series

 

[Will 1594]

I ve seen a few for sale lately even over here and they seem reasonably priced I remember something being said a while ago that after a certain year they were better(perhaps someone can find it for me) any users have any comments or any horror stories?
Is it the same box in the 4 & 6 cylinder arion
Im probably looking at the new shape model that was from about 2013, did they have an up grade with the change in front axle?
The shape seems to have stayed the same and the models numbers havent altered like some makes who add some thing extra each time they make an update
Any info greatly appreciated

Why change some thing that does not need changing , always jd here , but 650 came in spring ,
good tractor ,
dont hear much outbof local dealer with trans problems in c matic , ,
just waiting for the launch of the new look and 240 hp arion when it comes , as they said the eggs in the pan are just about boiling , so will wait ,

 

[daveydiesel1]

Why change some thing that does not need changing , always jd here , but 650 came in spring ,
good tractor ,
dont hear much outbof local dealer with trans problems in c matic , ,
just waiting for the launch of the new look and 240 hp arion when it comes , as they said the eggs in the pan are just about boiling , so will wait ,

Why the change from deere?

 

[KB6930]

Why change some thing that does not need changing , always jd here , but 650 came in spring ,
good tractor ,
dont hear much outbof local dealer with trans problems in c matic , ,
just waiting for the launch of the new look and 240 hp arion when it comes , as they said the eggs in the pan are just about boiling , so will wait ,

It was only the early c matic in the arion that gave issues

 

[Will 1594]

Why the change from deere?

be same answer as a lot more jd customers .
we will leave it there