Days like These ...

[Bald Rick]

But cows bought in after the outbreak and lost later during the outbreak will be only paid for at half the compo rates @ £611.50 currently and that frightens the feck outa a new entrant like myself.

Not just that either but it breaks the heart to see quality animals killed. Buying top stock replacements that may also get caught up and slaughtered too seems even worse somehow

 

[gone up the hill]

Not just that either but it breaks the heart to see quality animals killed. Buying top stock replacements that may also get caught up and slaughtered too seems even worse somehow

Whilst all the time the badger that is infested with TB can come and go as it pleases.

 

[ollie989898]

But cows bought in after the outbreak and lost later during the outbreak will be only paid for at half the compo rates @ £611.50 currently and that frightens the feck outa a new entrant like myself.
These cow's are fully organic and at a totally higher level aimed at a specific milk contract and won't be easy to replace.

Cripes, that puts it in perspective. As you say, it is problematic for everyone but even worse on new entrants.

 

[kill]

In your situation you need to buy cows from a clean TB4 area if they will allow it and then house them 24/7 until you go clear.

Its the only way now with the compo reduced by 50% for bought in animals.

Impossible with milking robots and 24 hour access needed.

 

[gone up the hill]

Impossible with milking robots and 24 hour access needed.

You will need to think outside the box, if you are going to lose so many like it sounds then split the yard into two so the indoor ones have one robot and the outdoor ones the other.

 

[kill]

You will need to think outside the box, if you are going to lose so many like it sounds then split the yard into two so the indoor ones have one robot and the outdoor ones the other.

Impossible. Robots touching and not possible to cross feed area to cubicles

 

[chas]

Impossible. Robots touching and not possible to cross feed area to cubicles

Do you mean 24 hr access to grazing?​

 

[andrew830]

Not only is the compensation a joke it doesnt take into account the lost calf,Its hard enough having a hole in the milk cheque but you also have a screwed up calving pattern and missing replacement heifers in 2 years

 

[Kingofgrass]

But cows bought in after the outbreak and lost later during the outbreak will be only paid for at half the compo rates @ £611.50 currently and that frightens the feck outa a new entrant like myself.
These cow's are fully organic and at a totally higher level aimed at a specific milk contract and won't be easy to replace.

Went to a milk meeting the other night,there was one organic farmer there I didn’t hear the full story but it went along the lines of he’s about to have a 5p Ltr reduction in milk price because somewhere in the world won’t accept the uk organic standards anymore .any one heard the full story ???

 

[farmer cen]

Yeah compensaition for cattle nowhere near where it should be,i can see me quarreling with the auctioner about it.

 

[Blue.]

Impossible with milking robots and 24 hour access needed.

Nothing is impossible,you need to think differently or your bust.

 

[frederick]

Went to a milk meeting the other night,there was one organic farmer there I didn’t hear the full story but it went along the lines of he’s about to have a 5p Ltr reduction in milk price because somewhere in the world won’t accept the uk organic standards anymore .any one heard the full story ???

As I understand it if we exit with no deal nowhere in the world will accept our milk and products as organic on day one and it will take months to get it recognised.

Problem today is export countries are buying product and not sure of what status they will be able to sell it if it arrives after 29th march.

 

[coomoo]

As I understand it if we exit with no deal nowhere in the world will accept our milk and products as organic on day one and it will take months to get it recognised.

Problem today is export countries are buying product and not sure of what status they will be able to sell it if it arrives after 29th march.

Thought this thread couldn’t get any harder to read, this is not good.

 

[Bald Rick]

As I understand it if we exit with no deal nowhere in the world will accept our milk and products as organic on day one and it will take months to get it recognised.

Problem today is export countries are buying product and not sure of what status they will be able to sell it if it arrives after 29th march.

We were also told at our producer meeting - Glanbia Cheese - that cheese manufacturers have been stockpiling. Glanbia themselves have 1000 tonnes of Mozzarella squirreled away in the event of a Hard Brexit. If this doesn't happen - and looking 50:50 now - then it will be dumped depressing the price in the short term.

 

[frederick]

We were also told at our producer meeting - Glanbia Cheese - that cheese manufacturers have been stockpiling. Glanbia themselves have 1000 tonnes of Mozzarella squirreled away in the event of a Hard Brexit. If this doesn't happen - and looking 50:50 now - then it will be dumped depressing the price in the short term.

But is this real stockpiling or just maturing in uk rather than Ireland.

 

[Beef farmer]

But is this real stockpiling or just maturing in uk rather than Ireland.

This

 

[More to life]

But is this real stockpiling or just maturing in uk rather than Ireland.

Real mozzarella only takes a day to make and eat

 

[Tim G]

Real mozzarella only takes a day to make and eat

Yes, had a genuine Italian here wanting to buy milk for mozzarella, he said in Italy you make it in the morning to eat fresh for lunch or dinner. The next day it is only fit for cooking with. I guess the day after it is exported from Italy to England!

 

[matthew]

Yeah compensaition for cattle nowhere near where it should be,i can see me quarreling with the auctioner about it.

Are you in Wales?
No valuers in England since 2006. Tabular valuations only.

 

[matthew]

I’m really sorry to read this thread. And my thoughts are with all of you affected. I’ve been there many years ago, and can empathise with the anger, the frustration and the downright unfairness of the so-called ‘eradication’ process which is so one sided.
And that was without gamma ifn.

We were completely naive as to just how tenacious these berluddy badgers are. Particularly sick ones. They were scraping under our sheeted gates and sharing feed, and we hadn’t a clue.

Black flash night cameras are brilliant. You may be surprised.
Badger proof all your buildings, all the way round. Especially feed stores etc. and TMR feed troughs.
Sheeted gates to only an inch above the ground or the critters can squeeze under.
Mains electric over concrete helps, and just allow cattle grazing in daylight.
Clean out water troughs and don’t allow any shared feed or minerals that vermin can also access.

Cornwall’s very best FCN contact has recently retired, but it is still a good contact organisation.