Deductions

Yorkshire lad

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Mixed Farmer
Location
YO42
there are premiums for +72kg wheat, depends what variety you grow, but if you are simply growing an out and out feeder, you can't grumble.[/QUOTE


Yes i can
If the trade can make deductions below 72 kg there should be a premium over 72 kg or why bother about specific weight then
Your argument about feed wheat does not hold with me or is it because it allows the trade to average low and high spec grain
when loading ships
 

Brisel

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Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
How many customers have you got left? :D

If you send goods above the contract spec then that's your loss. At least with osr you get bonuses. If you use a central store they will segregate according to quality then blend to meet the spec, adding value to yours if it's a bit under (and diluting someone else's if their is over spec).
 

Adeptandy

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Arable Farmer
Location
PE15
that is not the arguement, its the level of penalties and whether they are fair, not the penalties per se.
regarding bushel weight, it has been raised before that sucker sampler machines suck more light grains than heavy, therefore distorting the specific weight to the merchants advantage..
Agree on the sucker probes, but even that can work in your favour, had 5 loads of milling spec rejected last season due to poppy seed heads in the sample, 1 mill was taking it ok, the other rejected 5 in a row ( and they were literally in a row to the weighbridge on a monday morning, that will teach me to help the merchant out on a saturday loading empty lorries ) as the suction probe had been hit by another haulier, they only saw them as they had to go up on the lorry to sample, would have been missed by the suction as the seed heads flow to the side of the lorry on loading, it works both ways.
 

Badshot

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Location
Kent
How many customers have you got left? :D

If you send goods above the contract spec then that's your loss. At least with osr you get bonuses. If you use a central store they will segregate according to quality then blend to meet the spec, adding value to yours if it's a bit under (and diluting someone else's if their is over spec).
So basically all this nonsense about central stores being good for us as farmers is only true if you send poor quality stuff in that they can add value to? Send good stuff in and you don't get a bonus do you?
 

glasshouse

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Location
lothians
How many customers have you got left? :D

If you send goods above the contract spec then that's your loss. At least with osr you get bonuses. If you use a central store they will segregate according to quality then blend to meet the spec, adding value to yours if it's a bit under (and diluting someone else's if their is over spec).

I rarely get done for anything out of spec, but yes i have some merchants i wont deal with , which is fine.
when i was organic, the bulk of my wheat/beans/peas went to southern england, so they had to be right as there was no secondary tip,
although the buyers were generally keen for the stuff and willing to come and go.
see my previous tale about feed barley.
as has been said previously, 80kg wheat should attract bonuses if the system was fair.
How do the irish do it? as they seem to be fairer at everything.
 

Flat 10

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Arable Farmer
Location
Fen Edge
I think the fact that we get no bonus on dry wheat and that some mills/users have a different scale of claims is what gets me. And no this isn't always in my contract as have sent wheat on the same contract which was delivered to different end users and had different claim scales applied to it. really makes me savage. in this case I complained I was compensated on some of the unreasonable claims. Some are very fair others........... Not so much. Also I think its this gradual creeping of standards that a lot of us object to ie wheat was 16 now 14. malting barley now 14.5! and beans no admix and moist combined to 16% just straight 14% moisture. the game is getting harder and we are not rewarded for exceeding spec.
 

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
Some farms with overhead bins have been happy for drivers to load themselves. I worked on one where we had a central store have 1 dedicated lorry on turnaround. You and I know of a very modern store where they have a similar setup 😉
 

ajd132

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Suffolk
Some farms with overhead bins have been happy for drivers to load themselves. I worked on one where we had a central store have 1 dedicated lorry on turnaround. You and I know of a very modern store where they have a similar setup 😉
If grain is being stolen from farms it’s a good argument for a far stricter passport system 😉
 

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