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I read the leaflet as the trust were relying on natural boundaries, but as beavers can swim, climb hills and cross roads I'm not sure what these are, the sea ?
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I made this point, albeit in a less erudite manner, in my response.It's clear that beavers do tunnel into river banks.
The UK has many locations, especially in the Eastern region, where embankments hold raised rivers in a fashion critical to current land use. It cannot, imho, be appropriate for the land owners or river operators to have to go through a slow and costly process to achieve control of beaver damage to those embankments. Serious damage will ensue long before control licences get issued.
The whole process would also depend on the criteria that NE chose to use in deciding applications for a licence to control them (whether it be removing beaver dams (because under the proposals the dams would be protected in law), relocating the beavers or using lethal control).
Who trusts NE to be pragmatic on this point given their culture to date?
I read the leaflet as the trust were relying on natural boundaries, but as beavers can swim, climb hills and cross roads I'm not sure what these are, the sea ?
noIs a reintroduced animal a wild animal?
Don't count on London. If this goes ahead as planned beavers we'll be right in the middle of London via the Lee Valley Park and the South London rivers.....I'd say a Motorway with concrete central reservation would possibly work as a boundary... or London.
Any way to persuade the beavers to locate downstream of such housing developments?I believe that the pilot scheme of beavering in East Devon sort of 'lost' a few. So the fenced area was anything but secure. They're already out there.....
This crazy idea is being sold to the unwary as 'flood prevention', but what it means in reality is that land owned and farmed by someone else is rendered a wetland swamp. This to mop up daft planning decisions which have allowed dwellings to be built on flood plains, and lack of maintenance on existing drainage channels.
I believe that the pilot scheme of beavering in East Devon sort of 'lost' a few. So the fenced area was anything but secure. They're already out there.....
This crazy idea is being sold to the unwary as 'flood prevention', but what it means in reality is that land owned and farmed by someone else is rendered a wetland swamp. This to mop up daft planning decisions which have allowed dwellings to be built on flood plains, and lack of maintenance on existing drainage channels.
but, when that happens "lessons will be learned" and nothing will change!K
I cannot wait for 3ft of water to go through a major town due to beavers, sometimes the only way to get the message is for people or unfortunately experience their own pain and trauma
The big problem we have in the UK, is the majority of the population do not realise that we have managed the countryside and land to produce food, and altering the balance of our countryside will have consequences to our food supply. I think both Covid and shortages of transport workers has shown us how long and tenuous our food supply system is.
All this, is without thinking, what gives someone (environmentalists/re wilders) the right to let loose an animal that will fundamentally alter and devalue my legal asset, my land?
Anyone mentioned Coypu.....?It is crazy, simple as that. The second a major drainage culvert is blocked by these fudging things and we get a good go of heavy rain a motorway or dual carriageway will be washed away leaving the authorities with a bill for 1 million quid they will realise the things need to be hunted down and eliminated again. You wait and see. Fudging EA don't do anything about flooding at the minute apart from don their extra special emergency hi-vis and drive around in pick ups to point at things so I suppose a whole lot more won't make any difference to them.
Anyone mentioned Coypu.....?