E10 petrol

[Farmer Roy]

We even have pump stations with Aspen premixed...
But the premixed part isn't really important, it's that it's made out of alkylate fuel that is significant.

NEVER heard of alkylate . . .

 

[Frankzy]

Jeez ££££££££££££....

Aspen 2 | Aspen 4 | Premixed Petrol | Aspen Fuel

Aspen Fuel is a leading UK distributor of Aspen Products including Aspen 2 stroke fuel, Aspen 4 stroke fuel and Premixed Petrol.

aspenfuel.co.uk

Roughly 4£ per litre? Holy balls of Odin

Pump price here is roughly 1,4 per litre... I suppose the fact that Aspen is made here would make for a bit of a difference but surely not that much.

 

[Wisconsonian]

Speaking to mechanic here about it. They run ok on it, but its not a good idea to leave this fuel in small engines for prolonged periods, so drain the fuel out and run them dry if its not going to be used for a bit.

Just don't ever run a two cycle engine out of fuel.

Ethanol has been in most fuel at 10% for at least 30 years in the US. E85 also available, so lots of experience with custom mixes in lots of cars. I've never seen or heard of cars having issues with E10, but it sure could be like all the old cav pumps from the 60's that started leaking with ULSD. I drove late 70's vehicles all the way through to ones rated for it and no problems.

No problem RUNNING it in two cycles either, but don't let it sit in my opinion. Stale fuel will be hard to start, and you'll have to keep the choke on for it to run. Use fresh fuel, or fuel from a can. Quart can about $6, $20/gallon US. Most fire depts will use that exclusively in two cycles.

 

[Lincoln75]

May be an idea to buy 5 litre of Aspen 2 to run each 2 stroke on for the final tank full at the end of the season.

 

[Frankzy]

NEVER heard of alkylate . . .

Alkylate is a form of Gas-To-Liquid petrol where they only use the lighter gasses to supposedly achieve an even purer fuel than regular GTL's.
It makes a pretty noticeable difference in chainsaws and similar sizes where their engines only actually burn 80-90% of the fuel while the rest gets sent out the exhaust as noxious fumes. I quickly get headaches from normal petrol but with alkylate I don't feel a thing even after a 12 hour day..

 

[mf7480]

Remember this? Didn't turn out a massive problem in the end

THE FOUR-STAR RUNS OUT? - Farmers Weekly

30 April 1999 WILL YOU COPE WHENTHE FOUR-STAR RUNS OUT?How will the coming leaded petrol ban affect farming? Andrew Pearce lays out some answers

www.fwi.co.uk

 

[C.J]

What are the effects of ethanol fuel?​

E10 fuels are approved for usage in lawn mowers and outdoor power handhelds like gas chainsaws, trimmers, and leaf blowers. Gas with higher concentrations of ethanol is not. Always refer to your owner's manual for the correct fuel to use.

• While E10 fuels are approved for small engine equipment usage, it is not recommended, especially in handheld products. Gas with ethanol separates while being stored in your gas tank. The 2 stroke oil remains bonded to the gasoline but not to ethanol. Thus, the ethanol and water part of the mixture contains no oil for engine lubrication. This leads to poor lubrication, performance issues and costly repairs over time.
• Ethanol will start to absorb water over time, leading to poor engine performance. E10 gas absorbs up to 50 times more water than standard gasoline. It is recommended that you replace gas in your fuel tank every 2-3 weeks to avoid alcohol and water related engine issues.
• Ethanol is also an excellent solvent. Simply put, it will dissolve plastic, rubber, fiberglass and much more, potentially causing serious problems to small engines.

Taken from the Husqvarna website.

 

[delilah]

E10 won't hurt anything mechanical in your engines, it will just attack rubber components that aren't compatible with ethanol. Hoses, seals and diaphragms in small 2T carbs and B&S engines.

Yeah this will be the issue, when we made home brew biodiesel we learnt the hard way not to run vehicles with a natural rubber diaphragm in the lift pump, as the methanol used as part of the process ate it in no time, presumably the increased ethanol in petrol will have the same effect, so long as you have viton then it's fine.

 

[Qman]

This E10 petrol reminds me of the millennium bug.......we are doomed.

 

[Lincoln75]

This E10 petrol reminds me of the millennium bug.......we are doomed.

It`ll only bother the vintage car and bike owners , they`ll have to change fuel lines, seals diaphragm , most of them like messing about with their pride and joy so no big deal.