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Wonder if the OP has been happy or dismayed at the replies
farm jobs with houses and £25k a year plus perks are not easy to come by
farm jobs with houses and £25k a year plus perks are not easy to come by
She's not repliedWonder if the OP has been happy or dismayed at the replies
farm jobs with houses and £25k a year plus perks are not easy to come by
At least she asked the question.Wonder if the OP has been happy or dismayed at the replies
farm jobs with houses and £25k a year plus perks are not easy to come by
Wonder if the OP has been happy or dismayed at the replies
farm jobs with houses and £25k a year plus perks are not easy to come by
There is a difference between hours worked and hours on the farm
If you live on the farm it’s very difficult to argue wether he actually is working or not
Its very easy to waste hours each day letting you dogs out, going home for a cuppa, talking to your mate who turns up, just watching a bit of cricket or racing etc etc
Is employer on here possibly???She's not replied
Who on earth works 14 hrs a day 7 days a week for somebody else£25K+£9K = £34000
=£2833 / month.
2833 divided by 400 hours (lets be generous and say it's a 4 week pay period) = £7.08/hour. National minimum wage for 21-24 year olds is £8.20 and for 25 + it's £8.72.
I am writing this from the perspective of an employer. We all know that there are long hours seasonally but there has to be a balance. The OP is asking what is reasonable. It doesn't sound reasonable to me.
Who on earth works 14 hrs a day 7 days a week for somebody else
Who on earth works 14 hrs a day 7 days a week for somebody else
That is why I wrote, there are more questions needing to be answered from the OP, because 2 weeks of 100 hrs for example does not equate to all the time, plus no mention of perks. There is mention of no rent paid etc (so a lot more to this than just the side we have unfortunately), and that is not intended as a dig or anything - just showing the missing facts..
14 hrs/day over 7 days should break down as follows:
5 days x 8 hrs=40 hrs at basic pay
5 days x 6 hrs O/T=30 hrs basic pay
Sat 14 hours O/T =21 hours
Sun 14 hrs at double =28 hrs
That week totals 119 hour of basic hourly rate, So on an annualised salary that should give the employee 2 extra weeks off on full pay or 7 weeks of 4 day weeks!
Two busy harvest weeks like that and I can image the farmer's reaction if come 1st December the employee said "Bye, see you next year!"
14 hrs/day over 7 days should break down as follows:
5 days x 8 hrs=40 hrs at basic pay
5 days x 6 hrs O/T=30 hrs basic pay
Sat 14 hours O/T =21 hours
Sun 14 hrs at double =28 hrs
That week totals 119 hour of basic hourly rate, So on an annualised salary that should give the employee 2 extra weeks off on full pay or 7 weeks of 4 day weeks!
Two busy harvest weeks like that and I can image the farmer's reaction if come 1st December the employee said "Bye, see you next year!"
Something need doing , as clearly going to make himself ill.To be honest, I didn't reply because I was overwhelmed with the replies. To clarify; this is my OH that's upset about the situation. He does not get all of his holiday or compensatory rest. The farmer will make him work ridiculous hours, double shifts etc so that he doesn't have to pay his harvest help hourly to come in.
To curlietailz; he doesn't waste hours. He's a very hard worker and only has his lunch break half of the year. If he's spraying/drilling/rolling, he has to keep going, and isn't allowed to stop even for 10 minutes to eat. He has to hide his tractor behind a tree when I bring out a hot dinner so he can eat it. If he works a 100 hour week, he's working every hour of that. It's a 1000 ha farm for clarity, and it's just him and 2 hourlys (who rarely come in because my OH is doing the work for nothing). You might call him a mug, but he's a hard worker and genuinely loves his job. If we could find something better, we'd be gone.
A few people asked for the market rent of the cottage. In our area I would say about £650 in it's current state. It's very run down, and the repairs done to it have all been done by us.
For those asking about perks of the job, there aren't any. We get free wood, that OH sources and chops if that counts. We pay all fuel and utilities.
I've contacted ACAS. The operator I spoke to had no clue about agricultural employment law, and I'm reluctant to sit in a 40 minute queue again to find someone who is.
I'd have to work out what hours he does on average. Off season, he works 8 hour days, sometimes going over by an hour or 2. This time of year it's usually 80 hours a week at a minimum.
I'll be honest, I don't know where he stands on minimum wage because of the tied accommodation. The biggest issue here is holiday. I came here for some general advice, so thank you to everyone who replied- I really appreciate it. I guess I was just looking for some confirmation that it's not acceptable to treat your worker in this way. His boss is also a bully, and screams and yells at him. He takes the mick out of him to the hourlys, and it leaves him feeling very bad knowing they're getting £12 an hour.
To be honest, I didn't reply because I was overwhelmed with the replies. To clarify; this is my OH that's upset about the situation. He does not get all of his holiday or compensatory rest. The farmer will make him work ridiculous hours, double shifts etc so that he doesn't have to pay his harvest help hourly to come in.
To curlietailz; he doesn't waste hours. He's a very hard worker and only has his lunch break half of the year. If he's spraying/drilling/rolling, he has to keep going, and isn't allowed to stop even for 10 minutes to eat. He has to hide his tractor behind a tree when I bring out a hot dinner so he can eat it. If he works a 100 hour week, he's working every hour of that. It's a 1000 ha farm for clarity, and it's just him and 2 hourlys (who rarely come in because my OH is doing the work for nothing). You might call him a mug, but he's a hard worker and genuinely loves his job. If we could find something better, we'd be gone.
A few people asked for the market rent of the cottage. In our area I would say about £650 in it's current state. It's very run down, and the repairs done to it have all been done by us.
For those asking about perks of the job, there aren't any. We get free wood, that OH sources and chops if that counts. We pay all fuel and utilities.
I've contacted ACAS. The operator I spoke to had no clue about agricultural employment law, and I'm reluctant to sit in a 40 minute queue again to find someone who is.
I'd have to work out what hours he does on average. Off season, he works 8 hour days, sometimes going over by an hour or 2. This time of year it's usually 80 hours a week at a minimum.
I'll be honest, I don't know where he stands on minimum wage because of the tied accommodation. The biggest issue here is holiday. I came here for some general advice, so thank you to everyone who replied- I really appreciate it. I guess I was just looking for some confirmation that it's not acceptable to treat your worker in this way. His boss is also a bully, and screams and yells at him. He takes the mick out of him to the hourlys, and it leaves him feeling very bad knowing they're getting £12 an hour.