Engine oil advice please.

[Gone Shooting]

Currently run a MF7726 and a MF8730 which our only ad-blue tractors - 19 & 17 plates. Do we use E9 or 10-40 engine oils? Also in our collection are older tractors such as a Fiat F130 , Case MX170 , T8050 ( basically a Magnum ) , Househam sprayer and a 07 CR 9080 NH combine and an old MF3080 for which we have used E7 SHPD oil - also 40.7 Merlo . Would E9 do the entire fleet or should i treat them as two different groups as nothing has blown up yet !!!!! Thanks for any replies.

 

[Mur Huwcun]

The E9 low saps oil or similar is really too good and too flipping expensive for the other tractors if they haven’t got any emission control such as DPF or ad blue on. I would happily guess that all other will be more than happy on a good quality 10 or 15-40 engine oil

 

[76masseyman]

As above, E9 is backward compatible to E7, but with a split fleet like that save money where you can with the older ones.

 

[Qman]

I would use E9 on all of them from a 205 litre barrel. This would be cheaper than buying several 20 litre cans for different tractors.

 

[Cowabunga]

Depends entirely on whether you prefer to use one oil or can justify two 205 litre barrels of different oils, but also the difference in price between E7 and E9. Personally I would just run E9 for engines and UTTO or SUTO for transmissions. Two barrels for all but EP , brake and some power steering system use, depending on tractors. If you use enough oil during the year, you may be able to justify buying a barrel each of E7 and E9, but my use is too little to bother these days.

 

[ollie989898]

I would use E9 on all of them from a 205 litre barrel. This would be cheaper than buying several 20 litre cans for different tractors.

Less fudging about, less chance of mixing up the products and having part cans lying around. If E9 is a superior specification then get the warm feeling inside of having E9 in the engines of the older hosses and hope it pays off in the long run.

 

[76masseyman]

My take would be a barrel of E7 for the older fleet, and just a couple of 20 / 25L drums for the two MF’s

 

[fermerboy]

I wouldn't run E9 oil in the older ones, it's too good and will end up being burnt in old engines.
Just going through this with New Holland tractors now, updated our two main tractors to ones with FPT engines with ad blue, dealer workshop reckoned that the older ones would be better on the old oil.
Bought a barrel of E9 as the 20lit drums are savage money.

 

[Courier]

I find this type of filler jug with screwable caps on both the jug and spout very useful - just mark them up in thick indelible marker with vehicle reg numbers and oil type to make them near idiot proof …

 

[Cowabunga]

I wouldn't run E9 oil in the older ones, it's too good and will end up being burnt in old engines.
Just going through this with New Holland tractors now, updated our two main tractors to ones with FPT engines with ad blue, dealer workshop reckoned that the older ones would be better on the old oil.
Bought a barrel of E9 as the 20lit drums are savage money.

Will it heck be too good for them.

 

[biggles]

How long would be deemed as an acceptable length of time for a drum of oil to be kept once open? obviously stored in a dry workshop.

 

[davidroberts30]

How long would be deemed as an acceptable length of time for a drum of oil to be kept once open? obviously stored in a dry workshop.

Until the use by date...

 

[biggles]

Until the use by date...

Never noticed that they had them. was just wondering if all these fancy additives settled out over time or anything like that

 

[seedman stains]

https://www.agrizone.net/huile/huile-moteur/huile-moteur-10w40-200l-agrizone.AGZ000027041 10/40 e7
https://www.agrizone.net/huile/huile-moteur/huile-moteur-hdx-10w40-209l-agrizone.AGZ000504946 10/40 e9 thats a couple of prices over here

 

[ford 7810]

How long would be deemed as an acceptable length of time for a drum of oil to be kept once open? obviously stored in a dry workshop.

Until it’s empty give it a stir up now and again if you want.

 

[ford 7810]

Well low saps .sulphated ash,phosphorous and sulphur.what did it do in the first place if you don’t (can’t) use it now.what have they replaced it with a litre of oil is still a litre of oil. I just like to understand these things?

 

[ollie989898]

Well low saps .sulphated ash,phosphorous and sulphur.what did it do in the first place if you don’t (can’t) use it now.what have they replaced it with a litre of oil is still a litre of oil. I just like to understand these things?

A lot of the stuff that used to be in oil (and diesel and other products actually) was in there because it was in the crude oil to begin with as a co-product/impurity. It cost money to refine these things out and at the time it didn't hurt relatively unsophisticated diesel engines so no one took any notice about the bit of extra air pollution they caused.

This is why fully synthetics are all the rage- made from natural gas. So there isn't any sulphur or the like in them to begin with, so they have superior qualities from the outset (like a far wider viscosity range) and then manufacturers add additives and the like.