Farmers burning plastic !

[Chae1]

In Scotland we were allowed to incinerate it on farm until 2019.

It's not cheap to dispose of, last load I took in was over £600.

Another additional cost we can't pass on.

 

[Chae1]

The chloride reacts and turns into HCl- a common pollutant when anything is combusted. With commercially available incineration systems these types of materials can either be extracted (for use elsewhere or sold as commodity chemicals), reacted with another agent added to the feedstock or collected the assortment of scrubbing processes. These technologies already exist. We can't continue to landfill materials, it is nonsense. Either recover it, recycle it, incinerate it at high temperature with the assistance of natural gas or perhaps consider a TDP process.

The beauty of waste to energy is that waste streams don't need to be separated fully, metals are recovered at the end and inorganic ash/mineral residues can be used as an aggregate and sold.

I think in orkney they incinerate it to produce energy for town. @bigw ?

 

[7610 super q]

Burn it on the same day as you spread chicken sh!te. One cancels the other out.

 

[neilo]

Burn it on the same day as you spread chicken sh!te. One cancels the other out.

What are you talking about, ‘day’? Black smoke is invisible at night, or so I’m told.

 

[jondear]

I don't know which is worse - a plastic burner or an informer.

Do you burn?

 

[jondear]

What are you talking about, ‘day’? Black smoke is invisible at night, or so I’m told.

It's not the smoke its the smell .All night settling out in valley as a smelly fog!

 

[neilo]

It's not the smoke its the smell .All night settling out in valley as a smelly fog!

Needs more heat then perhaps?

Silage wrap never did burn cleanly, back in the day of course, but most other stuff never hung around long or made much of a smell.

 

[bigw]

I think in orkney they incinerate it to produce energy for town. @bigw ?

Shetland do I think @Chae1

 

[ollie989898]

Needs more heat then perhaps?

Silage wrap never did burn cleanly, back in the day of course, but most other stuff never hung around long or made much of a smell.

That black wrap, a devil to dispose of. You need more heat and more oxygen. Know of any strongly oxidising materials you might happen to have to hand on a farm?

 

[le bon paysan]

We pay 1 euro for a role of large sacks. Every May just drop of all the net and silage wrap at the local collection point... or you can take it back to the shop you bought the silage wrap/net from and they will take it for you.

Yep, pay e40 and get a receipt to show at the annual FA inspection, then get ,e50 voucher towards next years wrap.

 

[roscoe erf]

Publicly naming them / asking why on their social media accounts would stop it, immediately.


Odd thing to write; have you an 'immoral' conscience?

definitely I have

 

[Tarw Coch]

Neighbour here is organic and runs a cult like "christian" group, he runs various businesses and all the rubbish is burnt, the air often smells of burning plastic and sometimes the air is thick with it, I have talked to him about it and he says he doesn't burn plastic. Another neighbour has reported him and he told the EA he doesn't burn plastic and that was good enough for them. What are you supposed to do with someone like that?

Is there not an organic version of a red tractor inspection, we have to show evidence of where we have disposed such waste for red tractor.

 

[TripleSix]

They do incinerate plastic in this country, and produce energy from it.

Quite a lot of incinerators, Haverton Hill, Allerton Park, Kirklees, Isle of Man, just to name a few

 

[Danllan]

definitely I have

Hmm... an interesting coming together of moral philosophy, semantics & pedantics begs a question…

A 'conscience' is the aspect of one's personality / thought-process that creates a sense of what is, for an individual, right or wrong. So far so good. But, if one's 'conscience' is only immoral, surely it has dispensed with the 'right' aspect, and must therefore cease to be a conscience at all, per se?

 

[unlacedgecko]

They do incinerate plastic in this country, and produce energy from it.

Quite a lot of incinerators, Haverton Hill, Allerton Park, Kirklees, Isle of Man, just to name a few

New one just been built South of Gloucester, much to the chagrin of the locals.

The Cathedral of Fire.

 

[Lincsman]

There was a time not many years ago DEFRA had a blueprint of a barrel modification for burning plastic cans, this was after deciding previous advice for burying in fields wasnt a good thing

 

[Lincsman]

New one just been built South of Gloucester, much to the chagrin of the locals.

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The Cathedral of Fire.

The footings seem to be giving way a little there.

 

[DrWazzock]

I think waste to energy incineration plants are definitely the way forward. We shouldn’t be exporting waste.
I also think the responsibility for defining or providing a safe means of disposal should ultimately lie with the manufacturer of the product. They might then think a bit more carefully about what they put in them and how easy they are to deal with at end of life. They might even design stuff that lasts longer or isn’t “one trip”.

 

[Ukjay]

New one just been built South of Gloucester, much to the chagrin of the locals.

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The Cathedral of Fire.

The rental property we had for the last year was behind that in Haresfield Jcn 12, no black smoke come out of it - but I wouldn't want to live near it for too long...

 

[Sid]

While talking about disposal of plastic, how do people collect the fibres from astro turf they walk the cows on to prevent it from contaminating the fields and getting micro plastics into their watercourses.