Farming without subsidies

hally

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
cumbria
I’m not sure it does require more work and effort just a change in mindset which can be a very scary place.
I’m not sure it does require more work and effort just a change in mindset which can be a very scary place.
I am a one man band ( wife loves it when I say that:rolleyes:), so direct selling 300 lambs a month in a box would be slightly more labour intensive than watching a wagon loading them up and taking them to an abattoir.
 

turbo

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
lincs
Well done for fighting the good fight (y)
Have a good first day back tomorrow :)
And don’t worry there are some
Of us cracking on living in the 21st century making money and not complaining about prices.
Though the weather maybe a different matter!
Not complaining about prices or anything else really just hate double standards,very few industries don’t get some form of subsidies in one way or another but our costs are unduly high because the standards that our government place on us while importing stuff to keep the price we receive down.if anything comes here grown or reared to our standards with the products and technology we are allowed then bring it on,most can compete with it
 

glasshouse

Member
Location
lothians
I give up, honestly I do. Nothing but a collection of communists on here. Either work and making a living and a profit or get a fupping life and do something else, either way just don't moan about it.
I cant believe someone who works in completely subsidised occupation for the common good cant see the connection to price support for farmers.
The NHS and the agriculture act were born in the same year, and for the same reasons.
 

glasshouse

Member
Location
lothians
So you think the state should own all land and the farmers should just be state employees?
Where did i say that?
Britain had a free market in food from 1846 till 1933, which resulted in widespread malnourishment, abandoned land and unemployment.
The govt of the day werejustified in trying to change that as
40% of army recruits were found unfit, mainly from rickets, that led to change .
 

jendan

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Northumberland
OK, I give up, what is it that we should be doing to rake in the money then.....
Bit vague so far with " options ", and " change of mindset ".

It won't be organics.....fine for a while till every one jumps on the band wagon. Ditto farm shops et al .
Free range eggs ?.... unlikely...
https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/egg-prices-dropping-again.265646/

So what is it then ?
Buy 500 jersey x,rent or buy a chalk downland farm in southern england,milk once a day and sell your milk to a cheese producer(y),and watch the money roll in.It will be great until Dr.Fox does some of these amazing trade deals with the orange one,and imports 000 s tonnes of their stockpiled cheese into Britain at rock bottom prices.After that you just have to worry about your milk buyer/Mr cheese producer offering you 15p/litre take it or leave it.
 

unlacedgecko

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Fife
OK, I give up, what is it that we should be doing to rake in the money then.....
Bit vague so far with " options ", and " change of mindset ".

It won't be organics.....fine for a while till every one jumps on the band wagon. Ditto farm shops et al .
Free range eggs ?.... unlikely...
https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/egg-prices-dropping-again.265646/

So what is it then ?

Cover the whole farm in electric fencing technograze style. Finish dairy x calves off grass.
 

kiwi pom

Member
Location
canterbury NZ
OK, I give up, what is it that we should be doing to rake in the money then.....
Bit vague so far with " options ", and " change of mindset ".

It won't be organics.....fine for a while till every one jumps on the band wagon. Ditto farm shops et al .
Free range eggs ?.... unlikely...
https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/egg-prices-dropping-again.265646/

So what is it then ?

Rent the whole lot out for spuds and take a year off/get a job. Have the spud grower put everything back to grass as part of the deal.
How many ewes could you run?
Dairy heifer's?
Beef? Could you make enough $ buying in spring selling in autumn, no housing, low cost?
Fairly steady work wise I'd have thought.
Or if you want a busier life milk cows?
 

Doc

Member
Livestock Farmer
This is such old ground.
Ground hog post alert.
Farmers produce raw ingredients, processors produce food from these, trucks deliver it and shops sell it. Without one part, the others fail.
Oh, hang on. The processor has choice of supply. They can get it any old where, process it and then the retailer arranges delivery and sells it. Outbreak of Ricketts avoided due to modernity, phew.

Subsidy for ASDA (wall mart) anyone? After all they are doing the feeding....
 

hally

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
cumbria
Cover the whole farm in electric fencing technograze style. Finish dairy x calves off grass.
Sounds so easy it's amazing everybody is not doing it:rolleyes:
We going to have to do something different as the CAP has been such a failure. Oh hang on we have a plentiful supply of food that costs the public a fraction of their income compared to a generation ago produced in some of the safest and sustainable ways as an industry I'm ashamed we could have done better:facepalm:
 

Farmer Roy

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
NSW, Newstralya
This is such old ground.
Ground hog post alert.
Farmers produce raw ingredients, processors produce food from these, trucks deliver it and shops sell it. Without one part, the others fail.
Oh, hang on. The processor has choice of supply. They can get it any old where, process it and then the retailer arranges delivery and sells it. Outbreak of Ricketts avoided due to modernity, phew.

Subsidy for ASDA (wall mart) anyone? After all they are doing the feeding....

haha - before I got bored with it, I used to suggest subs for Tescos / Sainsburys every time these threads popped up. After all, THEY are the ones that feed people, if everyone is so worried about food security, cheap food & feeding the world . . .
needless to say, no one agreed with me :ROFLMAO:
 
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