- Location
- Herefordshire
We have a couple of trailers on order with floatation tyres and I was wondering do they pull easier on the road compared to super singles.I would imagine not but keen to hear your thoughts.Thanks.
Floatation tyres v super singles
- Thread starter texelburger
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- Location
- Huntingdon, UK
No. Super singles are better in every respect apart from compaction in my opinion.
- Location
- Somerset UK
445/65R22.5 super singles instead of the 385 ones?
But the compaction issue dwarfs every other consideration.
If the trailers are going to be used in fields, at all, then I wouldn't entertain 'super' singles in any way shape or form. I could see the appeal if someone was hauling bales 20 miles but they wouldn't be allowed to load on the land here.
Unless the ground is baked hard to depth, they leave 10cm ruts behind them which robs yield for several years.
Nearly
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- Location
- North of York
Floats for harvest.
SS for delivering grain in winter.
Wish I had the money to buy a set of floats.
SS for delivering grain in winter.
Wish I had the money to buy a set of floats.
- Location
- Herefordshire
Luckily the farm at home is in a ring fence with no roadwork but 2 farms we do the contracting on one has grain storage on site the other is a haul of 5 miles.If grain needs drying the max haul is back to the homefarm to dry is 10 miles
These new trailers are 14 ton AW Ultimas with the larger floatation tyres,not sure of size unless I dig out the quote,and I was just wondering how they would pull on the road.Kubota 4 cylinder 170 hp kvt tractors to pull them.
These new trailers are 14 ton AW Ultimas with the larger floatation tyres,not sure of size unless I dig out the quote,and I was just wondering how they would pull on the road.Kubota 4 cylinder 170 hp kvt tractors to pull them.
Dman2
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- Location
- Durham, UK
- Location
- Co antrim
Are they the high sidewall tyres or just the 45 profile? Big difference
- Location
- Herefordshire
I'll check
- Location
- Herefordshire
hat trailers ?
We have ordered grain trailers AW Ultima ,roll over sheets,mud guards,air/hydraulic brakes.These are top spec ones.
- Location
- Herefordshire
They are 560/60 R22,5 radial floatation Vredestein tyres
520 x180 brakes
- Location
- Huntingdon, UK
It's just pressure on the ground.
560/60-R22.5 is a big tyre, but you can run them at 30psi which leaves a very long and wide footprint that barely marks the ground at all.
'Super' singles are roughly half the width but they're designed to run at 105 -116 psi, usually nearer 90 psi on farm trailers. The 14 or 16 ply carcass isn't designed to flex, so they have a really high 'point' pressure on the ground which cuts in like a pizza cutter and compacts below cultivation depth.
I can see the logic of controlled traffic, but I've also seen a few farms up and down the country with 36m sprayers, having what looks like 12m tramlines in their winter sown crops all the way through to harvest. Super singles aren't going to improve the situation.
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- Location
- North Notts
It's the weight of the trailer and the distance you have to drag it round the field that causes compaction. Anyone serious about reducing it would be using smaller trailers.
Dman2
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- Location
- Durham, UK
Not sure why the W is above your message??
SilliamWhale
Member
I don't have a problem with super singles. Better on the road, cheaper and just keep trailers in tramlines when fully loaded.
In no till you barely see an issue. For muck it's driven on copiously amyway
In no till you barely see an issue. For muck it's driven on copiously amyway
- Location
- Herefordshire
Ah I see now.
AW is just down the road from me so it makes sense having them.We actually have 4 AW trailers but these are the first on floatation tyres.
The Ultima is a very well made trailer imo.
In my experience carting maize in 2012 when it was wet we were swapping trailers to reduce the mud taking out on the road , some had wide flotation some supersingles the wider ones did sink less but were far harder to pull due to their extra width causing the tractors to dig in more, both of us doing the trailering in the field comemted on it which is why I made the point. I just wonder if any research has been done above the normal narrow high pressure tyres cause more compaction that the same trailer on wider tyres, let's face it anyone can see that . We dd so never see any tyre marks use small trailers as we dont have long hauls and an old combine and always unload on headlands so it's not a problem for us, different situations would need different solutions.