Gate that hinges/latches at both ends

[Tomo23]

leek market has them old as the hill's but seem to work!

Initial crude sketched of where my thoughts were. Although I do like the gate within a gate idea. Hasn't considered that.

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This is just a dropper sketch I done at dinner. I think whatever way it is done there will be an issue with sag and you'll have to lift the point in the gate back on to it's eyes.


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The one above is based on a conventional gate latch. I think this would be the most tricky to setup to get right and avoid impingements.

I think your second picture is very similar to how they are at leek.

If I remember I can get a picture of them on Saturday.

 

[organicguy]

this is what we do on 2 big sheet doors across our calving pen. At least 10 years old. Needs regular greasing bout works OK. Allows moving cows and calves through shed or can hinge round to force into calving gate

 

[Xiaomi]

View attachment 1111491View attachment 1111489this is what we do on 2 big sheet doors across our calving pen. At least 10 years old. Needs regular greasing bout works OK. Allows moving cows and calves through shed or can hinge round to force into calving gate

Do you have to lift the gate into the eye? Is there much sad with that setup?

 

[organicguy]

We have a ramp welded on one eye to help slide the gate up. Works OK for a very heavy door
The pins are a snug fit

 

[mar]

Hi.

Looking to get a gate made for handling facilities and to make the most use of the area I want a gate that I can swing from both ends.

Has anyone seen any good implementations of this? I've seen some which have eyes on each gate end, but to open you have to pull a bar up the full length to 'unlatch' it. So, not handy when shuffling stock about.

I had an idea based on a latch like on current gates but it looked like it would jam easily and might not be handy to latch again. So hoping that someone will have already figured out the best solution for this!

Thanks.

Why do you want the gate to hang from both sides, is it blocking a door or something, is there another way around it, two gates with a post in the middle.

I'm sure it is possible to come up with some type of latch easily enough to be able to hinge it from both sides, something along the lines of a digger quick hitch or the quick attach used for attaching front loaders. On the MX loaders you pull a lever and the loader can be unattached, drive into it again and it latches it self in place and the lever resets itself.

 

[Xiaomi]

@mar for a handling facility. Gate to swing one way for drafting stock into the forcing pen for race. Swings other way to force stock for loading.

 

[Xiaomi]

We have a ramp welded on one eye to help slide the gate up. Works OK for a very heavy door
The pins are a snug fit

Would you mind loading a photograph of it please?
I know what you have done but a photograph would be handy to show a fabricator if we go with that option.

 

[Tomo23]

I think your second picture is very similar to how they are at leek.

If I remember I can get a picture of them on Saturday.

Same on the other end.

 

[thorpe]

Same on the other end.

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were you in early it look's a bit clean?

 

[Tomo23]

About 10ish that was. Bottom shed seemed half empty then. I was only there for sheep though.

 

[fiatf130]

That last pic is what I was trying to describe in my post at the beginning of this thread. Best design by far.

 

[renewablejohn]

I must say I am very impressed with these solutions but I do think it is very much over engineering for what needs to be done.
My suggestion would be instead of the eyes being on the gate put them vertically on the gate post then get the door mechanism you find on shutting lorry container doors and attach to the gate which you then weld two steel bars made into a circle but with a quarter of the circle missing slightly less than the diameter of the eyes. Turn door handle one way and the bars engage in the eyes. turn the other way and the gate is released.

 

[jamj]

To help overcome the sag; the last part of any closure operation needs to lift the gate slightly.
For example in the photo of the lever, the pin would need to bottom out on the eye before reaching the end of lever movement. Pushing the lever that last bit would then lift gate slightly making the hinge tight.

 

[Xiaomi]

Same on the other end.

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Is the horizontal bar at top of gate to prevent unintended opening at that end - seems like quite a long bar for the purpose?

It seems they all have their plus points and negative points.

The one above from Leek mart does look like the best, although would be tricky to make to ensure the lever provided sufficient travel on the pins.
I've just realised that is the same principle as the lower pins on a front loader.

I do like the first one - I think it is a really neat idea - I just wonder about the longevity of it and its robustness to animals pushing against it. I appreciate it is in a mart, but I'm more thinking of my implementation of that design.

If I was going to implement something a design like @organicguy would be what I'd come up with. Would like to see the ramp to the pin - so if you are reading this...!


I'll have to have a think about this. Maybe a fabricator is the best way to go for this gate.

 

[Tomo23]

Is the horizontal bar at top of gate to prevent unintended opening at that end - seems like quite a long bar for the purpose?

It seems they all have their plus points and negative points.

The one above from Leek mart does look like the best, although would be tricky to make to ensure the lever provided sufficient travel on the pins.
I've just realised that is the same principle as the lower pins on a front loader.

I do like the first one - I think it is a really neat idea - I just wonder about the longevity of it and its robustness to animals pushing against it. I appreciate it is in a mart, but I'm more thinking of my implementation of that design.

If I was going to implement something a design like @organicguy would be what I'd come up with. Would like to see the ramp to the pin - so if you are reading this...!


I'll have to have a think about this. Maybe a fabricator is the best way to go for this gate.

Yes it acts like a lock. Goes full length of the gate. Locks one side or the other.

 

[Xiaomi]

Yes it acts like a lock. Goes full length of the gate. Locks one side or the other.

Full length - that's a very good safety feature.

 

[organicguy]

Sorry for the delay, silaging

 

[Highland Mule]

On both ends. In local abattoir.

 

[rick_vandal]

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On both ends. In local abattoir.

I thought abatoirs were one way traffic! Did Hos-King make sheep drafting sets with a gate having a loop at each end? Cowboy pubs have swing doors...