Has anyone used the Farmdeals 20/20 milk powder?

[Smeddy65]

Logged on to the app this morning and saw that they're offering a deal on 20% fat 20% protein for £1750 a tonne.

Has anyone used this before? Just interested in what the quality is like since the price seems good.

 

[farmerste]

Logged on to the app this morning and saw that they're offering a deal on 20% fat 20% protein for £1750 a tonne.

Has anyone used this before? Just interested in what the quality is like since the price seems good.

Hope it comes quicker than the GP mineral offer they had on beginning of August,been waiting for almost 2 months now and still haven't had a delivery. Won't be using again

 

[ollie989898]

I would not buy any milk powder unless I had a breakdown of the ingredients. You can get 20% fat and 20% protein in many many different ways. Do not economise on powder, either in quantity or quality.

 

[Jdunn55]

Logged on to the app this morning and saw that they're offering a deal on 20% fat 20% protein for £1750 a tonne.

Has anyone used this before? Just interested in what the quality is like since the price seems good.

That will be fine for beef alves and dairy bulls but I wouldn't be rearing dairy heifers on anything less than 24% protein and 21% oil

 

[Cow-crazy]

There's an Ed Seed who works for Farmdeals, how curious

 

[TheRanger]

There's an Ed Seed who works for Farmdeals, how curious

Twas ever thus

 

[onesiedale]

One thing that has always bugged me about calf milk powder is the inclusion of whey proteins.
It is sold as a perfectly acceptable ingredient in feed which is to be consumed by calves. How is this allowed?

A cheese maker will use rennet; the enzyme from calves stomach that coagulates milk proteins, and extracts the proteins needed for the calf to digest and grow.
Those proteins are the casein, which goes on to make the cheese.

The cheese maker will then be left with the whey to dispose of.(or sell to a calf milk powder manufacturer)
Therefore, the whey that has been rejected by the rennet, is now miraculously valuable enough to feed back to calves for the rennet in their stomachs to.....
....reject it .

Now I'm sure there is some nutritionist lurking here who can maybe put me right, but what is the benefit of any whey derivatives being used in calf milk powder?

 

[Headless chicken]

We’ve moved over to a 100% dairy skim from act for less than above and we’re seriously impressed

 

[ollie989898]

One thing that has always bugged me about calf milk powder is the inclusion of whey proteins.
It is sold as a perfectly acceptable ingredient in feed which is to be consumed by calves. How is this allowed?

A cheese maker will use rennet; the enzyme from calves stomach that coagulates milk proteins, and extracts the proteins needed for the calf to digest and grow.
Those proteins are the casein, which goes on to make the cheese.

The cheese maker will then be left with the whey to dispose of.(or sell to a calf milk powder manufacturer)
Therefore, the whey that has been rejected by the rennet, is now miraculously valuable enough to feed back to calves for the rennet in their stomachs to.....
....reject it .

Now I'm sure there is some nutritionist lurking here who can maybe put me right, but what is the benefit of any whey derivatives being used in calf milk powder?

It will come down to the cost involved of providing the right amino acid and protein balance for the calf.

Have you seen the cost of these whey proteins for human consumption? It's like gold dust (see below) because it's high quality and quite sought after. Anyway, the important thing is that you use a high spec milk powder and feed plenty of it- you will never grow that animal as fast again in it's life. It is important that all milk powders contain protein of animal origin (i.e. from milk products) and not vegetable proteins (which are a whole lot cheaper) as the calf does not have the digestion optimised for digesting and absorbing these materials.

I can't remember the technical differences when it comes to skim vs whey but one is superior to the other. Volac rep or similar will be able to explain it far better than myself, I only do human stuff these days.

 

[onesiedale]

^^ that is all just marketing BS.
the fact is simple; a calves stomach does not digest whey protein.
Any feed rep selling you a powder with whey protein in it is selling you something that, in theory, your calves cannot digest

 

[Wesley]

We’ve moved over to a 100% dairy skim from act for less than above and we’re seriously impressed

Would you know the name of that powder? We’ve started using some from act & it would be worth asking about for the next lot.

 

[Headless chicken]

Would you know the name of that powder? We’ve started using some from act & it would be worth asking about for the next lot.

Elevator 50 I think it’s called.
my mistake it’s 100% dairy protein 50% skim powder. But it looks and smells just like marvel powder that people would buy in the shops. I think haulage dictates the price quite heavily

 

[ollie989898]

^^ that is all just marketing BS.
the fact is simple; a calves stomach does not digest whey protein.
Any feed rep selling you a powder with whey protein in it is selling you something that, in theory, your calves cannot digest

That is the first time I have heard that. I was told that they cannot digest vegetable protein and it should not be added to their diet until a later age.

 

[Holsteinfriesian90]

Elevator 50 I think it’s called.
my mistake it’s 100% dairy protein 50% skim powder. But it looks and smells just like marvel powder that people would buy in the shops. I think haulage dictates the price quite heavily

Is that a britmilk one?

 

[Headless chicken]

No made by someone else for act

Is that a britmilk one?