How much N on a clover ley for 3rd cut

[frederick]

So second cut just completed.
Have a new clover ley good clover population time to make it work. But I'm also not organic and a quality third cut is important.
It's had 40 available units from slurry and another 40 in the slurry not available immediately. If I was going full blown normal I would put 70 units on.
Current thoughts to just put 20 units and leave it at that. It will have to come from a bag as I don't think we have the time or weather for slurry.

 

[Nathan818]

So second cut just completed.
Have a new clover ley good clover population time to make it work. But I'm also not organic and a quality third cut is important.
It's had 40 available units from slurry and another 40 in the slurry not available immediately. If I was going full blown normal I would put 70 units on.
Current thoughts to just put 20 units and leave it at that. It will have to come from a bag as I don't think we have the time or weather for slurry

When did it get the slurry? After first cut?
Is it red clover or white?
Third cut coming off in 4 weeks?

 

[frederick]

Slurry before and after 1st cut.
White clover and about 4 weeks. Possibly a bit longer if the clover took off and so not loosing quality of grass quite the same.

 

[kp_n_plghng]

Some people were saying on here on another thread the N fixed by clover is not available in the first year of a sward? I've no idea if that's right or not, be interested to know for definite though.

 

[crashbox]

So second cut just completed.
Have a new clover ley good clover population time to make it work. But I'm also not organic and a quality third cut is important.
It's had 40 available units from slurry and another 40 in the slurry not available immediately. If I was going full blown normal I would put 70 units on.
Current thoughts to just put 20 units and leave it at that. It will have to come from a bag as I don't think we have the time or weather for slurry.

ZERO.

Replace potash with FYM in autumn.

 

[Lewis]

Rightly or wrongly ? im going on with 65kgs of 23N-0p-13k-7.5s and will get some 2000gal/acre slurry if all goes to plan. Onto an autumn red clover reseed . Just taken 2nd cut off.
Had similar after 1st cut

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Dont overdo it first year , its not at all good in the seedbed and later aplications will drive the grass and shade the clover out before its fully established

 

[Lewis]

@Derrick Hughes whats “don’t over do it” !?

 

[deleted user 837354]

Rightly or wrongly ? im going on with 65kgs of 23N-0p-13k-7.5s and will get some 2000gal/acre slurry if all goes to plan. Onto an autumn red clover reseed . Just taken 2nd cut off.
Had similar after 1st cut

Be interesting to see what happens here.

I personally believe that clover/legumes of any kind need P and K to thrive.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

@Derrick Hughes whats “don’t over do it” !?

I dont put any N in the Seedbed , at the very most 5-24-24 x 2 acre in old money
Clover wont do with p & k and lots of it