Builders caught 20ft in air crammed into digger bucket at luxury estate
Neither has a helmet or any other obvious safety gear as they use brute force to shove the heavy stone
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Hse fine builder 120k for using bucket as man platform
- Thread starter Chuckie
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Try doing it with ladders then, and see how you get on........... 
YELROM
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- North Yorkshire
The first two will be okay, but you would have to get a structural report done on the beam on the last photo to make sure it could carry the weight
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- South lakes
It won’t be the first time it’s been done, and I don’t think it will be the last!
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- Aberdeenshire
I saw that an was going to post it so I'm glad @Chuckie has.
If you read the article they've had repeated warnings so kind of left themselves open to getting prosecuted.
What you might do yourself on a farm is very different to what a builder should do on a site.
That maybe wrong and I'd only take risks myself, anyone I've ever employed to do a job, it's been full safety gear or don't start.
A big farmer up here got fined I believe £80 k when someone got hurt, it was I believe the men that invented it and as they have multiple farms I doubt the farmer knew it was happening but got the bill in the end.
Thankfully as I said hurt not killed.
If you read the article they've had repeated warnings so kind of left themselves open to getting prosecuted.
What you might do yourself on a farm is very different to what a builder should do on a site.
That maybe wrong and I'd only take risks myself, anyone I've ever employed to do a job, it's been full safety gear or don't start.
A big farmer up here got fined I believe £80 k when someone got hurt, it was I believe the men that invented it and as they have multiple farms I doubt the farmer knew it was happening but got the bill in the end.
Thankfully as I said hurt not killed.
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- South Molton
Ladders are for access, not a work platform.Try doing it with ladders then, and see how you get on...........
ollie989898
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Why the hell would you more to the point?
that isn't completely true is itBuilders caught 20ft in air crammed into digger bucket at luxury estate
Neither has a helmet or any other obvious safety gear as they use brute force to shove the heavy stone
It was one of a number of health and safety failings found during construction work at The Villas development on Starring Road in Littleborough, said the HSE.
If you've never stood in a bucket at height then you're not a proper farmer. I'd rather stand in a bucket than a pallet on toes...
mwj
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- Illinois USA
If your competition does not follow the rules they can be the lower bidder. Is this fair to the honest contractor
Should the person or people that accept there ''low bid'' be fined also?
Should the person or people that accept there ''low bid'' be fined also?
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- Lincolnshire
They’ve just stopped my mate using his sheet metal rolling machine that he’s used for 50 years without an accident. They say it needs a safety upgrade costing £kk. So he’s scrapping it as its now economically unviable like most production or manufacturing will be in the U.K. before too long.
There is stupidity I agree and it can kill people rapidly, but there’s a lot of pedantry as well which is killing us slowly.
There is stupidity I agree and it can kill people rapidly, but there’s a lot of pedantry as well which is killing us slowly.
OK. I have a " friend " who does a fair bit of wall repairs . Bucket set 2" from the wall, at the exact height, part lift ( but mostly slide ) heavy stone onto a bed of cement. Wheel barrow of cement in the bucket, harness over the top of the bucket fixed to the carriage.
Cherry picker / mancage no use, because of the floor lip and railings. Try getting a heavy stone over/ through that lot. Scaffolding OK, provided it's exactly at the right height, otherwise a back breaker.
Sounds like a classic case of folks who've never done any actual work in their lives dictating to others about best practice.............
Cherry picker / mancage no use, because of the floor lip and railings. Try getting a heavy stone over/ through that lot. Scaffolding OK, provided it's exactly at the right height, otherwise a back breaker.
Sounds like a classic case of folks who've never done any actual work in their lives dictating to others about best practice.............
The worse thing I see is that they aren't square with the house, much more risk trying to lift the stone in at an angle. Maybe a garden or something in the way.
I wonder was the stone strapped to the bucket while they were lifting it up?
Must be a very high door if that is 20ftBuilders caught 20ft in air crammed into digger bucket at luxury estate
Neither has a helmet or any other obvious safety gear as they use brute force to shove the heavy stone
And Man cages are only supposed to be used for " Unplanned " work. WTF does that mean ? Everything is planned. The only difference was it planned 2 weeks ago, or half an hour.
Ridiculous.
Ridiculous.
And hopefully he wasn't silly enough to wear a hard hat, which would impede his sight, hearing and balance.
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- Carmarthenshire, West Wales
there is a duty of care for the client to appoint a competent contractor, that is why councils here ask for builders contracting to them to be members of assurance schemes (thereby outsourcing the ensuring compliance with H&S regulations to the scheme enforcement/audit). This is why if I appoint a shed painter to paint my shed roofs and he is cheap, does the job by just walking on the roof, and then has an accident, I will end up with a large fine
betweenthelines
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Anyone who condones that sort of working practice shouldn't be allowed to run a drinking session in a distillery let alone be allowed to employ or manage staff.