Irish kit building

[Bald Rick]

How/why is it cheaper to buy a kit building (CE marked) from Ireland than locally?
Am I missing something?

 

[br jones]

Who ,?where ?

 

[Sheep]

How/why is it cheaper to buy a kit building (CE marked) from Ireland than locally?
Am I missing something?

No idea, but sheds always seem fking expensive on the mainland.

 

[Henarar]

A few bolts ?

 

[Tarw Coch]

Their concrete prices seem much cheaper too from what I’ve seen on here

 

[Bald Rick]

Who ,?where ?

Son wants a workshop to do out own servicing and was comparing prices for 80 X 40 X 14 with sliding door and fully clad.
Some Irish firm was over £2k cheaper delivered than similar spec in UK

 

[Bald Rick]

Their concrete prices seem much cheaper too from what I’ve seen on here

Yes including delivery
No rhymn nor reason

 

[Clive]

euro / £ exchange rates ? or do you mean N Ireland vs UK ?

 

[Bald Rick]

Not sure if it was N or S but still a big enough difference to win custom esp as CE marked

 

[shumungus]

The concrete thing is possibly down to the abundance of materials, for all the size of it there are 160 quarries and sandpits in Northern Ireland alone producing 24 million tons of aggregates and three super sized cement plants. Lough Neagh is a ready supply of sand and gravel and Lough Neagh Gravel is one of the hardest aggregates available in western Europe as is the Granite and Basalt of Counties Antrim, Tyrone and Down which is exported from the Conexpo site in Belfast docks (loading speed 1000t per hour) to road finishing and train track ballasting sites all around the world. In short ready access to very high quality materials which has given birth to a few large players who all had there humble beginnings in Agriculture.
The steel fabrication thing is also linked to Quarrying and Agriculture. Quarries are situated in rural locations and usually employ a large farming linked workforce, this in turn spawned fabrication and repair workshops for quarry plant. Due to Paddy's 'can do' attitude this has led to Northern and Southern Ireland being a large manufacturing centre for steel fabricated machinery, (85% of all the crushing and screening equipment in the world was manufactured in County Tyrone). When Paddy came home at the weekend to help on the family farm after working at Terex or Powerscreen all week as a coded welder, he would start and make bits and bobs of machinery in the farm workshop/hayshed as he done that sh!t all week, could fabricate to a high standard and had a practical working knowledge of actually using the equipment. Hence the practical, strong well made Irish kit was born. Steel lands here in boatloads, MIG wire is bought by the pallet and we know how to build sh!t. Plenty of large manufacturing outfits if you go looking for the Managing Director he will be in a set of overalls and a hardhat 'down the yard', involved in all the processes and keeping an eye on it all from ground level, (he will also be probably be trying to get away as he has a heifer that's near the calving and he wants to see her before dark).
@Bald Rick That's the long answer. The short answer is, we have the knowhow, the materials, the skillset, the workforce (ably backed up by Eastern Europe) but most importantly as I have said before, Paddy will work for nothing.

 

[eagleye]

gravel £9.50-10 a tonne delivered on farm here, concrete £68m3 at the minute

 

[br jones]

14 to dust ,24 a ton ,ten miles from quarry

 

[Davy_g]

most importantly as I have said before, Paddy will work for nothing.

A slice of cake is better than no cake.

 

[shumungus]

A slice of cake is better than no cake.

Friend, I would make do with a bun.

 

[Sharpy]

There was a man building a new steading near Stranraer about 10 years ago and it was cheaper to buy the Readymix from Ireland!

 

[Dry Rot]

Isn't there a big cement factory in Northern Ireland?

 

[shumungus]

Isn't there a big cement factory in Northern Ireland?

Three.

 

[mar]

How/why is it cheaper to buy a kit building (CE marked) from Ireland than locally?
Am I missing something?

Are the steel sizes the same?

 

[Happy]

The concrete thing is possibly down to the abundance of materials, for all the size of it there are 160 quarries and sandpits in Northern Ireland alone producing 24 million tons of aggregates and three super sized cement plants. Lough Neagh is a ready supply of sand and gravel and Lough Neagh Gravel is one of the hardest aggregates available in western Europe as is the Granite and Basalt of Counties Antrim, Tyrone and Down which is exported from the Conexpo site in Belfast docks (loading speed 1000t per hour) to road finishing and train track ballasting sites all around the world. In short ready access to very high quality materials which has given birth to a few large players who all had there humble beginnings in Agriculture.
The steel fabrication thing is also linked to Quarrying and Agriculture. Quarries are situated in rural locations and usually employ a large farming linked workforce, this in turn spawned fabrication and repair workshops for quarry plant. Due to Paddy's 'can do' attitude this has led to Northern and Southern Ireland being a large manufacturing centre for steel fabricated machinery, (85% of all the crushing and screening equipment in the world was manufactured in County Tyrone). When Paddy came home at the weekend to help on the family farm after working at Terex or Powerscreen all week as a coded welder, he would start and make bits and bobs of machinery in the farm workshop/hayshed as he done that sh!t all week, could fabricate to a high standard and had a practical working knowledge of actually using the equipment. Hence the practical, strong well made Irish kit was born. Steel lands here in boatloads, MIG wire is bought by the pallet and we know how to build sh!t. Plenty of large manufacturing outfits if you go looking for the Managing Director he will be in a set of overalls and a hardhat 'down the yard', involved in all the processes and keeping an eye on it all from ground level, (he will also be probably be trying to get away as he has a heifer that's near the calving and he wants to see her before dark).
@Bald Rick That's the long answer. The short answer is, we have the knowhow, the materials, the skillset, the workforce (ably backed up by Eastern Europe) but most importantly as I have said before, Paddy will work for nothing.

Also is the aggregate tax also not at a much reduced rate in NI compared to the rest of the UK?
Fairly sure you only pay 20% of the tax that rest of UK does.

 

[Bald Rick]

Are the steel sizes the same?

Don’t know tbh as son was looking at sheds and made the comment about the price differential. To be CE marked, I assume that the steels will be sized to certain tolerances such as wind and snow loading ?