Jar met baler

[daveydiesel1]

Seen couple on agriaffaires for sale. Year 2020. Around 10k. Why is no1 buyin these things as thier cheap as chips

 

[bobk]

 

[Pringles]

We are waiting on you buying one. Then you can let us know how you get on with it doing 5 or 6000 bales a year

 

[wdah/him]

copy of a krone 125?

newer more known models can be got for similar money with good parts backup

 

[Wellytrack]

Loads of Krone copies about, most of them aren’t worth a stuff though.

Good thread for a Sunday afternoon.

 

[daveydiesel1]

They just seemed cheap. Just wonderin if any1 on here had bought 1 to see how it had done

 

[Sharpy]

@DrWazzock has experience of similar I think.

 

[Zebbedee]

Looks a slow noisy barsteward o a thing

 

[bobk]

Looks a slow noisy barsteward o a thing

My rp12 would wipe that old crate .

 

[DrWazzock]

@DrWazzock has experience of similar I think.

don’t remind me. Ours was badged as a Sipma hussar. It did 60 bales but the roller where the net is introduced tended to get grass wrapped round it which created netting problems. Tried all sorts to avoid grass wrapping round it but it finally ended up with so much round it it bent the net knife out .
It’s sitting in the shed as I type awaiting my attention. It did actually make some nice bales of chopped silage but the grass wrap problem round the net introduction roller was a persistent problem. Spraying it with wd40 between bales did help but needless to say it was hardly practical. As the paint wore off it got worse. It might have been ok in dry straw but it did not last long enough. A shame really, as it looked well made, as I think a copy of a krone. Just spoilt by one weakness, or maybe we expected too much in damp hay that had been atrociously rowed up on a very steep hillside.
It was very nearly a good cheap baler but not quite. Maybe they have ironed out the problem now, I don’t know, but Sipma were less than helpful at the time. I think they were imported by Zagroda who more or less washed their hands of it.
I still live in hope of actually fixing it myself when I get round to it and might try it in straw this summer. Makes a tidy bale when it actually works.
If somebody wants to offer us 10k for ours with only 60 bales on the clock I’ll snap their hand off!
To me it beggared belief that such a flawed product could roll off a modern production line in such numbers but there we are.

 

[steveR]

copy of a krone 125?

newer more known models can be got for similar money with good parts backup

I looked at a Sipma (I think) badged one 2 1/2 years ago. Was steered away at the time

I bought a Krone Bellima for a barely a couple of grand more. Proven low tech and a useful improvement in performance over the KR120/125.

 

[Sharpy]

don’t remind me. Ours was badged as a Sipma hussar. It did 60 bales but the roller where the net is introduced tended to get grass wrapped round it which created netting problems. Tried all sorts to avoid grass wrapping round it but it finally ended up with so much round it it bent the net knife out .
It’s sitting in the shed as I type awaiting my attention. It did actually make some nice bales of chopped silage but the grass wrap problem round the net introduction roller was a persistent problem. Spraying it with wd40 between bales did help but needless to say it was hardly practical. As the paint wore off it got worse. It might have been ok in dry straw but it did not last long enough. A shame really, as it looked well made, as I think a copy of a krone. Just spoilt by one weakness, or maybe we expected too much in damp hay that had been atrociously rowed up on a very steep hillside.
It was very nearly a good cheap baler but not quite. Maybe they have ironed out the problem now, I don’t know, but Sipma were less than helpful at the time. I think they were imported by Zagroda who more or less washed their hands of it.
I still live in hope of actually fixing it myself when I get round to it and might try it in straw this summer. Makes a tidy bale when it actually works.
If somebody wants to offer us 10k for ours with only 60 bales on the clock I’ll snap their hand off!
To me it beggared belief that such a flawed product could roll off a modern production line in such numbers but there we are.

Have you tried polishing the offending roller (assuming its steel)? The other thing that often causes symptoms like that is insufficient net tension.

 

[steveR]

We are waiting on you buying one. Then you can let us know how you get on with it doing 5 or 6000 bales a year

Slowly....

 

[TripleSix]

Well that looks horrific...

I'll stick to my NH 650...

 

[DrWazzock]

Have you tried polishing the offending roller (assuming its steel)? The other thing that often causes symptoms like that is insufficient net tension.

Believe me we tried all sorts. It did throw the net to full width more consistently with maximum net braking.
But we just couldn’t seem to stop grass wrapping round the net introductory roller which would then often end up with the net itself wrapping round it instead of the bale. We polished that roller and once the paint wore we polished it all off to shiny bare metal. Often the net would run in off to one side leaving a half netted bale. Absolute nightmare. You gritted your teeth and prayed when the netting sequence began. I remember I carried wd40 in the cab and a pair of scissors. I would trim the net evenly at the knife, clean any grass off the roller and polish it with wd40 between every bale just to finish the field. Then a neighbour rang up and wanted us to do some for him. Pig of job on a bad hill, damp hay rowed up by some twst like a ridge tent. Manoeuvring in a bad corner I didn’t realise it was making a bale and wasn’t watching. It had wrapped up hugely round the introductory roller and bowed the net knife and anvil out. Went home for the JD550 and it ran bearing. My cousin came in with his new JD and burnt a belt off somehow. One of those days you remember for all the wrong reasons but can laugh about it now.

 

[DrWazzock]

To be fair the feed on that Jarmet doesn’t look quite the same so I am not going to pass any judgement on that machine. Maybe it does do the job. I have no idea, but the Sipma didn’t work for us.

 

[Sharpy]

Believe me we tried all sorts. It did throw the net to full width more consistently with maximum net braking.
But we just couldn’t seem to stop grass wrapping round the net introductory roller which would then often end up with the net itself wrapping round it instead of the bale. We polished that roller and once the paint wore we polished it all off to shiny bare metal. Often the net would run in off to one side leaving a half netted bale. Absolute nightmare. You gritted your teeth and prayed when the netting sequence began. I remember I carried wd40 in the cab and a pair of scissors. I would trim the net evenly at the knife, clean any grass off the roller and polish it with wd40 between every bale just to finish the field. Then a neighbour rang up and wanted us to do some for him. Pig of job on a bad hill, damp hay rowed up by some twst like a ridge tent. Manoeuvring in a bad corner I didn’t realise it was making a bale and wasn’t watching. It had wrapped up hugely round the introductory roller and bowed the net knife and anvil out. Went home for the JD550 and it ran bearing. My cousin came in with his new JD and burnt a belt off somehow. One of those days you remember for all the wrong reasons but can laugh about it now.

Sounds horrific!

 

[DrWazzock]

Worst machine we ever bought. But we might sort it out yet. Next project. I do like a challenge.

 

[Pringles]

Yes sounds horrific just like the baler in the vid above!!

 

[daveydiesel1]

Worst machine we ever bought. But we might sort it out yet. Next project. I do like a challenge.

Keep us posted on gettin it sorted. Has to be some way of sortin this problem