K80 ball hitch

[cosmagedon]

We've got a Dromone k80 for the older New Holland's but looking to get one for the newer style hitch. I've seen the Scharamuller one and I like the fact it sticks out a lot further, it will make turning a lot easier and PTO shafts should have an easier time.

Are they as good as a Dromone?

 

[Richard Smyth]

We've got a Dromone k80 for the older New Holland's but looking to get one for the newer style hitch. I've seen the Scharamuller one and I like the fact it sticks out a lot further, it will make turning a lot easier and PTO shafts should have an easier time.

Are they as good as a Dromone?

Don’t know anything about dromome hitches but scharmuller invented the k80 system

 

[cosmagedon]

Don’t know anything about dromome hitches but scharmuller invented the k80 system

Everyone around here seems to have a Dromone one, I've never seen a Sharmuller up close.

 

[Richard Smyth]

Everyone around here seems to have a Dromone one, I've never seen a Sharmuller up close.

That may be, scharmuller were making them long before anyone in the uk knew what k80 is

 

[mf7480]

We had a scharmuller one but it started to bend so replaced it with a dromone. That’s been fine.

 

[e3120]

I'm not sure that sticking out further is a good thing. Whilst it enables tighter turns, it won't make any difference to a WA pto, which works smoothest with the angle all at one end.

My main concern is the extra strain on the puh and the detrimental effect on front/rear distribution, usually disguised with a massive lump of dead weight on the front.

 

[goodevans]

Old type new holland available if anyone is looking for one

 

[cosmagedon]

We had a scharmuller one but it started to bend so replaced it with a dromone. That’s been fine.

Don't like the sound of that what tractor was that one and where did it bend?

I noticed a Deere hitch is a lot thinner than a CNH one for some reason.

 

[cosmagedon]

Old type new holland available if anyone is looking for one

I'd be interested if it was for a the newer style hitch, we're sorted for the older one thanks.

If anyone has a new style one send me a message

 

[Fendtbro]

Do not buy a scharmuller k80 ball. They are designed by idiots and are lethal. Little oscillation and if the tractor and trailer drops into opposing dips or ruts the tiny little cast arm snaps off like a carrot. You then inevitably then lose the trailer at some point. Don't ask how we know!
Buy the dromone ball. Has a little bit more travel and a bit more potential flex and wriggle room, also more likely to deform than snap.. I can supply both systems if of any interest.

 

[cosmagedon]

Do not buy a scharmuller k80 ball. They are designed by idiots and are lethal. Little oscillation and if the tractor and trailer drops into opposing dips or ruts the tiny little cast arm snaps off like a carrot. You then inevitably then lose the trailer at some point. Don't ask how we know!
Buy the dromone ball. Has a little bit more travel and a bit more potential flex and wriggle room, also more likely to deform than snap.. I can supply both systems if of any interest.

That's not ideal!

 

[Slowcow]

I know this is a old thread, but I'm considering my options, I've a 8770 I'd like to pull a forage wagon with.
It only has a drawbar (a hefty one at that!) no pick up hitch, the wagon has a swivel hitch on, will I regret dropping the huge pin through and using like that or should I invest in a ball hitch?
Had a quote for a shcarmuller one, 860 +vat, then about 400 for the wagon end.

Not contracting with it so won't be using it day after day, but I'd prefer nothing to break.

Cheers

 

[sjt01]

I know this is a old thread, but I'm considering my options, I've a 8770 I'd like to pull a forage wagon with.
It only has a drawbar (a hefty one at that!) no pick up hitch, the wagon has a swivel hitch on, will I regret dropping the huge pin through and using like that or should I invest in a ball hitch?
Had a quote for a shcarmuller one, 860 +vat, then about 400 for the wagon end.

Not contracting with it so won't be using it day after day, but I'd prefer nothing to break.

Cheers

You will need a pick up hitch on the tractor for it to work. The tractor end fitting is tailored for the particular model of pick up hitch.

 

[mf7480]

I know this is a old thread, but I'm considering my options, I've a 8770 I'd like to pull a forage wagon with.
It only has a drawbar (a hefty one at that!) no pick up hitch, the wagon has a swivel hitch on, will I regret dropping the huge pin through and using like that or should I invest in a ball hitch?
Had a quote for a shcarmuller one, 860 +vat, then about 400 for the wagon end.

Not contracting with it so won't be using it day after day, but I'd prefer nothing to break.

Cheers

Just have a bush made up to drop into the ring on the wagon so the pin is a nice fit, seeing as it’s a swivel hitch you can have a nice snug fit. I think ball hitches are seriously overrated

 

[ollie989898]

I know this is a old thread, but I'm considering my options, I've a 8770 I'd like to pull a forage wagon with.
It only has a drawbar (a hefty one at that!) no pick up hitch, the wagon has a swivel hitch on, will I regret dropping the huge pin through and using like that or should I invest in a ball hitch?
Had a quote for a shcarmuller one, 860 +vat, then about 400 for the wagon end.

Not contracting with it so won't be using it day after day, but I'd prefer nothing to break.

Cheers

The dromone system is largely considered superior to the sharmuller one if you go one what is written above. May be worth contacting them to see what options they can come up with.

Drawbar is all well and good but it shifts the pivot point compared to where pick up hitch hook/ball would be and so you need a PTO shaft to suit.

On the continent all the big outfits are on ball and spoon.

 

[e3120]

Just have a bush made up to drop into the ring on the wagon so the pin is a nice fit, seeing as it’s a swivel hitch you can have a nice snug fit. I think ball hitches are seriously overrated

Only downside to too snug a fit is that a swivel hitch doesn't provide any flexibility if you go straight over a crest/into a hollow.

 

[Durt Burd]

The change in pitch of the wagon drawbar as you raise and lower it from road to field will not be ideal on a drawbar pin. It is better suited to the point on a pick hitch hook. The K80 is the optimum in this regard

 

[ollie989898]

The change in pitch of the wagon drawbar as you raise and lower it from road to field will not be ideal on a drawbar pin. It is better suited to the point on a pick hitch hook. The K80 is the optimum in this regard

Some hooks -particularly JD in this respect- will wear very quickly in that kind of application because they are relatively soft. The K80 is superior in that regard because you can properly grease it and the design keeps dust and the like out.

 

[Durt Burd]

Some hooks -particularly JD in this respect- will wear very quickly in that kind of application because they are relatively soft. The K80 is superior in that regard because you can properly grease it and the design keeps dust and the like out.

My brothers Torro was on the pick up hitch of a Fendt and NH. Because of the incline it wore on the front of there hitch ring but lasted a good many seasons doing 300-400 acres/year. The Jumbo is on a ball and spoon and is much snugger without the hitch hop but that comes at a € cost.

 

[ollie989898]

My brothers Torro was on the pick up hitch of a Fendt and NH. Because of the incline it wore on the front of there hitch ring but lasted a good many seasons doing 300-400 acres/year. The Jumbo is on a ball and spoon and is much snugger without the hitch hop but that comes at a € cost.

Can you not just use an insert into the pick up hitch in place of the usual hook? All seems a bit daft expensive for what it all is.