Lantra - ‘Preparing for your HSE inspection’

[slackjawedyokel]

I’ve had a letter from HSE/Lantra saying “HSE will be inspecting farms in your area in the Autumn”. (Well.. don’t they inspect farms anywhere at all times of year?)
I‘m invited to a free online Lantra training course in preparation.

Anyone else had this? Good idea?
In particula would this be the sort of thing where participation makes it less likely you’ll be inspected, or conversely would participation make it more likely that HSE might pay a visit?

Thoughts?

 

[CornishTone]

I’ve had a letter from HSE/Lantra saying “HSE will be inspecting farms in your area in the Autumn”. (Well.. don’t they inspect farms anywhere at all times of year?)
I‘m invited to a free online Lantra training course in preparation.

Anyone else had this? Good idea?
In particula would this be the sort of thing where participation makes it less likely you’ll be inspected, or conversely would participation make it more likely that HSE might pay a visit?

Thoughts?

My gut feeling is participating would either make you less likely to be inspected or, if you were “lucky” enough to be selected for inspection, more likely to get special HSE Brownie Points for doing it.

 

[Doing it for the kids]

Had this last year.

Paid Nfu to come out to state the obvious (mostly) and write up a massive file with recommendations.

Due to pre planning the suggestions were easy.

I’m still dreading an inspection but I feel happier with the file.

My frustration is the sensible approach we all do no longer counts. You have to write it all down to prove you have thoughts about it.

 

[slackjawedyokel]

Had this last year.

Paid Nfu to come out to state the obvious (mostly) and write up a massive file with recommendations.

Due to pre planning the suggestions were easy.

I’m still dreading an inspection but I feel happier with the file.

My frustration is the sensible approach we all do no longer counts. You have to write it all down to prove you have thoughts about it.

I though HSE still didn’t require your written thoughts if, like me, you have no employees.

 

[Doing it for the kids]

I though HSE still didn’t require your written thoughts if, like me, you have no employees.

That may be the case for you, you didn’t mention that though.

ProB much less serious for you then.

Have a bit of a google and jot a few bits down maybe

 

[Bruce Almighty]

Had this last year.

Paid Nfu to come out to state the obvious (mostly) and write up a massive file with recommendations.

Due to pre planning the suggestions were easy.

I’m still dreading an inspection but I feel happier with the file.

My frustration is the sensible approach we all do no longer counts. You have to write it all down to prove you have thoughts about it.

We did the same thing with NFU about 2018/19
A big file of recommendations & also some piece of mind that you have at least made an effort & paid a significant amount for it too.

Back to OP, I'd do the on-line course.
At least on-line you less likely to waste time with any daft comments you usually hear.

 

[Northdowns Martin]

Had my invite today. Last time I attended a training day HSE turned up in yard following day, must have been something I said

 

[slackjawedyokel]

Had my invite today. Last time I attended a training day HSE turned up in yard following day, must have been something I said

That’s exactly the sort of thing that would worry me!

 

[upnortheast]

Got the letter today.
Change of tack from a few years ago when the letter said come to one of our open days & you won`t get a visist.

Highlight of the open day was the dummy who was supposed to be tipped out of the loader bucket got his braces hooked on the back of the bucket. Despite vigouress shaking of the bucket the dummy refused to fall, Cheered on by the crowd

 

[slackjawedyokel]

Got the letter today.
Change of tack from a few years ago when the letter said come to one of our open days & you won`t get a visist.

Highlight of the open day was the dummy who was supposed to be tipped out of the loader bucket got his braces hooked on the back of the bucket. Despite vigouress shaking of the bucket the dummy refused to fall, Cheered on by the crowd

I went to one of those a few years ago on a farm. The trouble was that sometimes I was privately disagreeing with what the ‘experts’ were saying. Eg a silage trailer was parked with the shoe on a block of wood. They pointed at it and said that if you had to do that it should be in a block of concrete not wood. I’d have thought that wood might fail gradually whereas a block of concrete could fail suddenly and without warning.
Still- no point disagreeing with experts.

 

[feilding]

Experts are very dangerous , they actually believe the rubbish they say. Most of the time.

 

[AndrewM]

we had this down here 2 years ago, hse visited an number of farms that attended the course and a number that didnt. we didnt do the course, but got an inspection. wasnt to bad for us, they gave us plenty of notice.

 

[marshbarn]

I’ve had a letter from HSE/Lantra saying “HSE will be inspecting farms in your area in the Autumn”. (Well.. don’t they inspect farms anywhere at all times of year?)
I‘m invited to a free online Lantra training course in preparation.

Anyone else had this? Good idea?
In particula would this be the sort of thing where participation makes it less likely you’ll be inspected, or conversely would participation make it more likely that HSE might pay a visit?

Thoughts?

same letter here , like you dont know whether to get involved

 

[slackjawedyokel]

I wonder if it’s an HSE exercise- send out a load of these invitations and fund it, then inspect a number of those that take up and decline the offer and base future actions on that.

 

[primmiemoo]

Maybe you could do what at least two who attended a course I was delegated to go to did ~ a) read the letter, b) put it to one side, c) have either your OH discover it, read it, put it in the bin, and subsequently wake you up in the middle of the night to advise strongly that you attend on account of the implications of the wording of the letter having sunk in ... or, in circs where no OH is available, skip c) and instead, put it in the bin, and wake up in the middle of the night, the implications of the wording of the letter having sunk in?

 

[neilo]

I’ve had a letter from HSE/Lantra saying “HSE will be inspecting farms in your area in the Autumn”. (Well.. don’t they inspect farms anywhere at all times of year?)
I‘m invited to a free online Lantra training course in preparation.

Anyone else had this? Good idea?
In particula would this be the sort of thing where participation makes it less likely you’ll be inspected, or conversely would participation make it more likely that HSE might pay a visit?

Thoughts?

We all had the same letter locally 18 months or so ago. I binned it, others I know sat through the ‘course’ in the hope it would mean they didn’t get an inspection.
It didn’t work. Inspections seemed to be regardless of who had listened to what is mostly common sense anyway.

 

[Rossymons]

Got the letter today.
Change of tack from a few years ago when the letter said come to one of our open days & you won`t get a visist.

Highlight of the open day was the dummy who was supposed to be tipped out of the loader bucket got his braces hooked on the back of the bucket. Despite vigouress shaking of the bucket the dummy refused to fall, Cheered on by the crowd

We had one at Royal Cornwall Showground a few years ago.

We all agreed it was one of the best Catchups we'd ever had! There was also some stuff about hi viz jackets and not standing in potato boxes. I dunno, we were too busy chatting

 

[Gedd]

Think most folks are getting the invite who can afford to sit through it in august if january maybe

 

[neilo]

HSE do a free guidebook, which the inspector will ask if you’ve seen. I expect he’d be particularly impressed if you could drop something from it into conversation.

Link not copying, but Google ‘HSE Farm wise’ and you’ll find it.

 

[Nigel Wellings]

I have had a number of farming clients in Northants and Bucks that have had such visits from HSE over last 2 years. All of them felt the visit was worthwhile and none encountered any particular problems.HSE provided a number of tips that were useful. Some of the Inspectors quite helpful and had a farming background, 1 didnt know the difference between a farm and a factory.
General consensus was nothing to worry about and quite helpful.