Massey ferguson 30 drill

Bauer Hauke

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Arable Farmer
Hello farmers, I am new here and like to say hello. Could anybody help me with this question: I would like to buy a massey Ferguson seeder 30 with 4 meter wide. I am planning to use it on my no-till land, it is light and sandy soil. I am writing from north germany. Do you think this could work? As far as I have seen it should work, but the seller told me that he would not agree. I thought this is a direct drill. Or is there a difference between the 30 and the 130? Thanks in advance!

Kind regards,
Hauke
 
The MF 130 is very different to the 30 drill. For no till land you will need a 130. It has hydraulic disc coulters to place the seed.

I don’t think the 130 was made in a 4m width. Whilst it looks like a 3m I think it only drills around 2.7m wide.

I ought to know as I have one here, but I’ve not used it much. It needs a bit of work. Because I’m a bit stupid I sold a really great one to @Warp Land Farmer and he won’t let me have it back!!
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Hello farmers, I am new here and like to say hello. Could anybody help me with this question: I would like to buy a massey Ferguson seeder 30 with 4 meter wide. I am planning to use it on my no-till land, it is light and sandy soil. I am writing from north germany. Do you think this could work? As far as I have seen it should work, but the seller told me that he would not agree. I thought this is a direct drill. Or is there a difference between the 30 and the 130? Thanks in advance!

Kind regards,
Hauke
Welcome to the forum.
The MF30 drill is only suitable for ploughed land. The MF130 is more suitable for no till land but is an old design and not very good. Spare parts can be difficult to find.
We use an old Moore Unidrill, 4 m wide. It is perfect for our Sandy no till land, and I would seriously recommend it. It does not block up with trash and it rolls the seed in very well.
Good luck.
 

Bauer Hauke

Member
Arable Farmer
Hello DrWazzock, thank you very much! Unfortunately it seems now that I have to think new...these directseeders are not very popular in germany, its a pitty. I ever heared of a Moore drill before, I will start serching now.
Kind regards,
Hauke
 

MrNoo

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Cirencester
The 30 was also a disc coulter drill or suffolk type, we had a couple and also a 130 that I still have in the shed (3m) I would say a 130 would do the job fine in sandy soil but am convinced there are better drills about for such a thing. The 3 or 4m Vaddy box drill is basically a posh version of the MF130 and would do exactly the same thing but much better.
I know the 4m box drills are common in the EU, not so much here though. But guess the price ould be a lot higher compared to an old MF130
 
Elsewhere on this forum you will find that the Horsch CO tine drills can be simply and relatively cheaply converted into direct drills. Probably a bit more plentiful where you are than Moore of MF130 drills!
 

Bauer Hauke

Member
Arable Farmer
The MF 130 is very different to the 30 drill. For no till land you will need a 130. It has hydraulic disc coulters to place the seed.

I don’t think the 130 was made in a 4m width. Whilst it looks like a 3m I think it only drills around 2.7m wide.

I ought to know as I have one here, but I’ve not used it much. It needs a bit of work. Because I’m a bit stupid I sold a really great one to @Warp Land Farmer and he won’t let me have it back!!
Thank you, Cab-over Pete, now I am serching all over the world...hard job. Or do you want to sell your one?
 

Bauer Hauke

Member
Arable Farmer
The 30 was also a disc coulter drill or suffolk type, we had a couple and also a 130 that I still have in the shed (3m) I would say a 130 would do the job fine in sandy soil but am convinced there are better drills about for such a thing. The 3 or 4m Vaddy box drill is basically a posh version of the MF130 and would do exactly the same thing but much better.
I know the 4m box drills are common in the EU, not so much here though. But guess the price ould be a lot higher compared to an old MF130
Thanks a lot, MrNoo and also Suffolk Serf, I gonna look and let you know
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
The MF130 wasn’t that great. I wouldn’t bother with it. Import a secondhand Moore unidrill. Plenty of British exporters could provide one and Moore still provide excellent back up. The press wheels on the Moore are excellent on sand, reducing problems like manganese deficiency and frost heave and they leave a surface that will not erode. The MF130 is useless in this respect.
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
The Moore Unidrill has press wheels which roll the row where the seed is placed, but doesn’t roll the ground between the seed rows. This leaves a corrugated surface which is highly resistant to wind and water erosion.
The problem with using a conventional roller after drilling is that whole width is flattened and smoothed making it vulnerable to erosion. There is also the cost of the extra operation.
The Moore Unidrill isn’t so good in wetter stickier conditions where the discs can create slots, covering can be poor and the rolling can seal the seed in. But on arable sand it’s my drill of choice and has proven reliable.
 

Bauer Hauke

Member
Arable Farmer
The MF130 wasn’t that great. I wouldn’t bother with it. Import a secondhand Moore unidrill. Plenty of British exporters could provide one and Moore still provide excellent back up. The press wheels on the Moore are excellent on sand, reducing problems like manganese deficiency and frost heave and they leave a surface that will not erode. The MF130 is useless in this respect.
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The Moore Unidrill has press wheels which roll the row where the seed is placed, but doesn’t roll the ground between the seed rows. This leaves a corrugated surface which is highly resistant to wind and water erosion.
The problem with using a conventional roller after drilling is that whole width is flattened and smoothed making it vulnerable to erosion. There is also the cost of the extra operation.
The Moore Unidrill isn’t so good in wetter stickier conditions where the discs can create slots, covering can be poor and the rolling can seal the seed in. But on arable sand it’s my drill of choice and has proven reliable.
Hello DrWazzock,

I have found a moore unidrill in danmark last week and I bought it. It is a three meter machine with a pneumatic drill of Vicon. I worked on sand land where I first worked with a disc harrow and then with the Moore-it worked great! And I was on a field that was like a meadow-the crop was mulchered three weeks ago and it worked also perfect!
Thanks very much for the good advice! And also to all ohers who helped me with their experiences!
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
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Hello DrWazzock,

I have found a moore unidrill in danmark last week and I bought it. It is a three meter machine with a pneumatic drill of Vicon. I worked on sand land where I first worked with a disc harrow and then with the Moore-it worked great! And I was on a field that was like a meadow-the crop was mulchered three weeks ago and it worked also perfect!
Thanks very much for the good advice! And also to all ohers who helped me with their experiences!
I’m very pleased to hear you are getting on well with the drill. I think you have made the right choice for sand land. Our Moore has also worked very well here on sand during the spring.👍
 

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