on another forum i'm on a few hard core vegan have popped up pulling "facts" out of there asshole about farmers and the spread of the virus the big one being if we were all vegan the virus would never have happened. does anyone know of any websites with real farming facts like land break down, % of what crops are grown and the uses of said crops ect ect
need help with info to beat a vegan
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TripleSix
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You'll never win.
People with that mentality are always right, even when presented with cold hard facts.
Don't waste your time.
Best thing to beat a militant vegan with is a baseball bat.
People with that mentality are always right, even when presented with cold hard facts.
Don't waste your time.
Best thing to beat a militant vegan with is a baseball bat.
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I find using the fact that a vegan diet requires supplements (how natural is that?), that organisations like the NHS and friends of the earth don't recommend a vegan diet and that they have to manipulate figures such as soya use (around 7.5 tonnes of soya bean to make 1 tonne of soya oil so you have 6.5 tonnes of by product) to further their cause are good places to start.
But as previously mentioned remember you are dealing with brainwashed morons
who don't want to listen to reason if you are dealing with the more militant variety.
Above all try and remain polite but firm with your argument.
Make them look the unreasonable ones.
Good luck
But as previously mentioned remember you are dealing with brainwashed morons
who don't want to listen to reason if you are dealing with the more militant variety.Above all try and remain polite but firm with your argument.
Make them look the unreasonable ones.
Good luck
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Just shoot the bar-stewards and put them out of there misery
Just tell them that the vaccine is about to undergo animal testing but as they wont wish to take it .......
ollie989898
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Not just this vaccine being tested in animals but a lot of vaccines used to contain animal derived products...
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Beat them with this
Lazy Sod
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It seems to me that when trying to counter the vegan, nobody asks them if they care about the countryside. I don't imagine that they would say no, so they need to be advised of these facts.
About 65% of farmland is permanent pasture and can only grow grass.
There are a whole raft of invertebrates, birds and mammals that rely on a grazed habitat for their very existence, therefore permanent pasture is a vital part of our ecosystem.
The only way that a grazed habitat can be achieved is by having sheep and cattle. The only way that these animals can be on the pasture is if the meat and milk that they produce has an economic value. People will need to buy and eat this food, they food need anyway.
If they'll listen, the methane from cattle argument is easily explained. Methane is part of the carbon cycle. If cattle numbers are stable, no new methane is put into the atmosphere. British cattle numbers are now only 60% compared to 1975. British farmers have already done their bit.
About 65% of farmland is permanent pasture and can only grow grass.
There are a whole raft of invertebrates, birds and mammals that rely on a grazed habitat for their very existence, therefore permanent pasture is a vital part of our ecosystem.
The only way that a grazed habitat can be achieved is by having sheep and cattle. The only way that these animals can be on the pasture is if the meat and milk that they produce has an economic value. People will need to buy and eat this food, they food need anyway.
If they'll listen, the methane from cattle argument is easily explained. Methane is part of the carbon cycle. If cattle numbers are stable, no new methane is put into the atmosphere. British cattle numbers are now only 60% compared to 1975. British farmers have already done their bit.
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if you argue with stupid people, then you just ad to there numbers,
don't give them air time, just walk
don't give them air time, just walk
rusty
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When replying to the militant vegans it's really those others who are reading the posts you are trying to convince. As has previously been said you won't win with the militants but there is likely to be a much greater number of 'ordinary ' people just watching and it is these we have the most chance of influencing. Be the calm and rational one.
normally i would agree, that it not worth it. but this is a public forum and they clearly making sh!t up as the please and they need challenged on it, else people believe this type of sh!t.
that why im look for real hard facts, so that if people do goole it they see i'm tell the truth and the other are not
flywheel
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a tonne of rice produces more methane than a cow in her lifetime .
Does anyone know a farmer who has the virus
border reiver
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We should actually be feeling sorry ?for the evangelical vegans? ,what can they eat ??- no avocados ?to be had in the supermarket.
I suppose they could start chewing on their grass lawns but that would make them produce methane ?. However some might be in dire straights as Astro turf might not be digestible! ?
I suppose they could start chewing on their grass lawns but that would make them produce methane ?. However some might be in dire straights as Astro turf might not be digestible! ?
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Why not just kick them out as we do here? No point engaging with them.
Weare Cham
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Might sign up to the vegan forum to see what sh1te they spout.
Is that true? It doesn't feel right somehow.
Stop worrying. Shortly we are going to be forced into eating local. That should be fun for vegans, especially in uplands.
I also ask how many tiny and unseen creatures have died to produce their veg and grain, also how much fuel used to transport from overseas. Greta needs to get onto this.
I also ask how many tiny and unseen creatures have died to produce their veg and grain, also how much fuel used to transport from overseas. Greta needs to get onto this.