- Location
- north Wales
Not all of us... If I could have bought one with wind up windows for less money I would have ?
Alloy wheels and some fancy infotainment system do nothing to me
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Not all of us... If I could have bought one with wind up windows for less money I would have ?
Alloy wheels and some fancy infotainment system do nothing to me
- Location
- Dumfries & Galloway
Rowland
Member
- Location
- Northeast England
Ive a basic spec l200 and its not very good ,dont think ill keep it for long . its got air con blue tooth phone elec windows which is about it .Its not a patch on the Defender 12 year old I sold for about the same price i paid for the new l200 .I sold the Defender due to its age and the 120000 miles on it and the daft price it comanded . Not much less than i paid for it 8 years ago.
- Location
- north Wales
From 1985 till last month we've had 3 hiluxes,never had a breakdown with any of them, the last one was 53 Reg so served us well for 16 years with only minor repairs needed.
We've also had 3 discoverys since 1995, I could bore you for ages with tales of breakdowns, unreliability and fortunes spent repairing them!
- Location
- Aberdeenshire
Disco S1 broke seat bases every 2k, rusted inside a year.
3 x Freeloaders, early one put piston outside of engine block, next one had dog in back and tried to lower rear window only to discover on motorway the only way to put window back up was for it to go all the way down, it then started having electrical gremlins. 3rd one came with broken air con, failed abs and wheels out of balance.
TD5 defender produced blue smoke inside 3k miles and was in the repair centre for 12 weeks of the one year I owned it. Sold it at an £8k loss complete with winch, sound proofing, up rated shocks and laser cut checker plate everywhere. When it was in my loaner was a Kia Pride till I complained then they HIRED me a Disco for which I had to sign saying no offroad, towing, dogs or livestock in. My former dealers in Kendal were great and tried really hard to make a fist of what they were given, the dealers in Elgin and Aberdeen were cupid stunts who were not interested if you were not buying a RR Autobiography as a third car. My 300 TDI and my 88'' 2A are the last cars from that stable I had any faith in to travel further than my wife could drive in an hour in her Patrol to pick me up when the LR p.o.s would break down. 40k for a new base model Defender, you're having a laugh, aren't you? I could have something from Asia with a 7 year warranty that I wouldn't need for that sort of money.
3 x Freeloaders, early one put piston outside of engine block, next one had dog in back and tried to lower rear window only to discover on motorway the only way to put window back up was for it to go all the way down, it then started having electrical gremlins. 3rd one came with broken air con, failed abs and wheels out of balance.
TD5 defender produced blue smoke inside 3k miles and was in the repair centre for 12 weeks of the one year I owned it. Sold it at an £8k loss complete with winch, sound proofing, up rated shocks and laser cut checker plate everywhere. When it was in my loaner was a Kia Pride till I complained then they HIRED me a Disco for which I had to sign saying no offroad, towing, dogs or livestock in. My former dealers in Kendal were great and tried really hard to make a fist of what they were given, the dealers in Elgin and Aberdeen were cupid stunts who were not interested if you were not buying a RR Autobiography as a third car. My 300 TDI and my 88'' 2A are the last cars from that stable I had any faith in to travel further than my wife could drive in an hour in her Patrol to pick me up when the LR p.o.s would break down. 40k for a new base model Defender, you're having a laugh, aren't you? I could have something from Asia with a 7 year warranty that I wouldn't need for that sort of money.
.....,. And our the worlds most common taxi
I’ve never understood why / how Mercedes maintain any kind of “prestige” image
We ha e a similar age Navara we use on the farm - granted it has a tough life but it’s on engine number 3 and clutch number 3 in 120k miles
Hardly brilliant imo - we should probably scrap it - unlike a defender of the same age it has no value
- Location
- Dumfries & Galloway
LR/RR is the worst manufacturer for reliability, I've never understood how they have any kind of prestige either.
But I don't make the rules
- Location
- East Sussex
The fact that some models seem to be very reliable for high mileage is plenty of prestige for the indians.
- Location
- NSW, Newstralya
Personally, if I was regularly towing 3.5 t I wouldn't be doing it in anything smaller than a 200 Series Toyota or an F series Ford . . .
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- Location
- NSW, Newstralya
Another serious question ?
Do you get the Jeep Wrangler in the UK ?
I would have thought it would tick all the same boxes a SWB Defender does ?
Or is there not a big enough market for them to bother importing them ?
In which case, that answers another question
Do you get the Jeep Wrangler in the UK ?
I would have thought it would tick all the same boxes a SWB Defender does ?
Or is there not a big enough market for them to bother importing them ?
In which case, that answers another question
- Location
- Dumfries & Galloway
They are here.
But Jeep don't have a good name over here... Irony because they are probably more reliable than LR/RR
Poor tow capacity, very expensive and I'm not sure the engine options. Basically just another soft roader lifestyle vehicle not cut out for hard work, IMO
- Location
- NSW, Newstralya
They are here.
But Jeep don't have a good name over here... Irony because they are probably more reliable than LR/RR
Poor tow capacity, very expensive and I'm not sure the engine options. Basically just another soft roader lifestyle vehicle not cut out for hard work, IMO
But they use them for serious off road work in the US ?
- Location
- Dumfries & Galloway
From Google;
UK spec tow capacity is from 1,497kg - 2,495kg.
Price from £37,870
There's 2 reasons right there why we don't buy them.
- Location
- NSW, Newstralya
but . . .
apparently people didn't buy the Defender either, at least not in enough numbers to keep building them
they are talking 40K + for the new Defender . . .
apparently people didn't buy the Defender either, at least not in enough numbers to keep building them
they are talking 40K + for the new Defender . . .
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- Location
- NSW, Newstralya
the "unicorn" vehicle that people seem to want here is obviously a niche market which doesn't exist elsewhere in the world ?
- Location
- NSW, Newstralya
as much as I love the old 2 Series - I wouldn't want to tow 3.5t with one on a public road . . .
which seems to be one of the boxes that need ticking for the "unicorn"
- Location
- Cornwall
I wasn’t given the choice. Fortunately I didn’t get up to that sort of weight very often. 2.5t with the trailer and 1t in the tray meant slow, steady progress!
- Location
- NSW, Newstralya
If you can't maintain 100 km / hr on our roads you are stuffed
That's why I can't imagine the idea of a heavily laden Defender 90 in low range pulling up a hill with a string of traffic behind it, let alone tractors & trailers on public roads
Paddington
Member
- Location
- Soggy Shropshire
For years I struggled to commute to work in various LR models and often having to ring in to say I was in a layby waiting for a tow truck was not appreciated by my boss. The only person with a car excuse was when our secretary drove her Yaris onto a freshly laid stretch of concrete by mistake. Other colleagues cars just didn't break down like mine did. I'm sure they thought I couldn't be arsed to get out of bed in the morning until the rear door of my D1 actually fell off in the office car park.