New ley herbicide

[mixed breed]

Sowed a new ley back in September.

Sheep grazed it off tidy, moved them off and gave it 180kg/ha of n and it's tillering out nicely.

But..

So what's best to kill young docks and thistles? Looking to get the cows grazing it in the next two weeks..

 

[deleted user 837354]

I see white flowers, a closer up photo would have been useful. You might have a difficult time hitting them as the grass is well forward but such is life.

 

[bobk]

Docks .

 

[deleted user 837354]

Ooooh, now I see, new photos have appeared.

I reckon you might have to use leystar there or whichever one has clopyralid in for the thistles.

 

[mixed breed]

Ooooh, now I see, new photos have appeared.

I reckon you might have to use leystar there or whichever one has clopyralid in for the thistles.

Sorry Ollie I hit the post button before I'd finished writing

Thanks for your reply I was looking at envy, but no mention of docks..

 

[deleted user 837354]

Nice dose of timothy in that. Looks a great mix.

 

[deleted user 837354]

Sorry Ollie I hit the post button before I'd finished writing

Thanks for your reply I was looking and envy but no mention of docks..

Not sure if you can use envy on new leys, I've been out of the game for a bit. Can soon stiffen it with fluroxypyr if needs be.

 

[Boohoo]

Sorry Ollie I hit the post button before I'd finished writing

Thanks for your reply I was looking at envy, but no mention of docks..

Envy will get rid of docks at the 2l/ha rate for established grassland but I don't know if it will at the 1.5l/ha rate for new leys

 

[deleted user 837354]

Envy will get rid of docks at the 2l/ha rate for established grassland but I don't know if it will at the 1.5l/ha rate for new leys

Put a litre of hurler with it...

Won't do anything for the thistles though.

 

[Brisel]

Any herbicide needs at least a week of withdrawal period (always read the label) & if it stays dry I'd leave it longer as much of it will still be on the grazed leaves. Get the herbicide in stock, graze it sooner then spray the aftermath when it's warmer. I agree with Ollie - boosting the fluroxypyr with a generic like Hatchet, Minstrel or Hurler will help dock control. Do check the labels to see what's allowed or not. Leystar is the only product really made with new leys in mind.

Envy won't do much for the thstles. Leystar is better:

Sorry for the small writing - link to this here

 

[deleted user 837354]

Its a toss up between that or Polo and Hatchet etc.

 

[mixed breed]

Cheers folks I'll get some leystar ordered. I'm starting to think the same @Brisel , today's promised rain hasn't come and none now forcast for the foreseeable, leave it alone get it grazed and hit it in may.