New Zealand fresian

[aidan]

Anyone milking New Zealand fresian

always thought they would suit in a wetter climate

 

[lazy farmer]

We do amongst others. Their fine low hassle personally prefer a crossbred for their efficiency of LW to solids. But o wouldn’t put you off. Partially will depend on you’re solids expectations.

 

[Farmer Keith]

I started crossing my British friesians that way 3 years ago, first heifers coming up to calve in August and they look phenomenal but time will tell. I’m hoping they’ll be a little bit milkier and not as likely to get fat.

 

[Holsteinfriesian90]

I started crossing my British friesians that way 3 years ago, first heifers coming up to calve in August and they look phenomenal but time will tell. I’m hoping they’ll be a little bit milkier and not as likely to get fat.

Do you think they will have higher solids than British friesian?

 

[Farmer Keith]

Do you think they will have higher solids than British friesian?

I would think so but not sure until they calve I suppose, I’ve been putting my bigger more Holstein types to a cross bred bull to.

The goal is to reduce live weight, increase milk solids and hopefully get a more efficient herd that’s less hassle for me.

 

[Holsteinfriesian90]

I would think so but not sure until they calve I suppose, I’ve been putting my bigger more Holstein types to a cross bred bull to.

The goal is to reduce live weight, increase milk solids and hopefully get a more efficient herd that’s less hassle for me.

British friesians causing you hassle?

 

[Farmer Keith]

British friesians causing you hassle?

Not really but the Holsteins were before them, just striving for that extra solids yield with the friesians really. I may cross the NZ stuff back to bf in time. A leaner lighter BF that would produce 6000 litre @4.8f and 3.8p while leaving a decent calf would be a hell of a cow here.

 

[Holsteinfriesian90]

Not really but the Holsteins were before them, just striving for that extra solids yield with the friesians really. I may cross the NZ stuff back to bf in time. A leaner lighter BF that would produce 6000 litre @4.8f and 3.8p while leaving a decent calf would be a hell of a cow here.

Same hear I’m hoping the British friesian will for fill that I maybe wrong though.

 

[Llmmm]

Anyone milking New Zealand fresian

always thought they would suit in a wetter climate

Not milking any yet but from what i can see off the youngstock the few i have a picture of health they outwintered best of all breeds on par with norwegian red.Now the downside why they never caught on the ones i have are extremely wild.They may have high scc as cows as in nz they dont select heavily they will have high solids but the udders on bf might be better.Would you not consider a small high fertlity holstein at least that way you will have higher health traits better udders more milk better temprament.ALso beware theres some jersey backbreeding in alot of nz bulls .One bull i used on jersey cows a few calves came like jerseys turned out he was 1 16th jersey despite in the friesian section of catalogue.It was in the small print.

 

[Llmmm]

Same hear I’m hoping the British friesian will for fill that I maybe wrong though.

How do you find crossing over and back with hols and bf do you find that after first cross they turn out like hols or bf i personally think a small strong high fertile hol can only be good on a bf and add milk and improve udders while the bf maintains strength

 

[Hill Dairy]

We started using NZ Friesian around eight years ago so milking 5+ year's worth much more get up and go than a British Friesian sped milking up alot. now at 4.4 and 3.75 at around 6k liters. I will cross some of the smaller ones back to bf for a bit more body.

 

[Llmmm]

We started using NZ Friesian around eight years ago so milking 5+ year's worth much more get up and go than a British Friesian sped milking up alot. now at 4.4 and 3.75 at around 6k liters. I will cross some of the smaller ones back to bf for a bit more body.

What weight are your cows do you get much feet trouble

 

[lazy farmer]

Not milking any yet but from what i can see off the youngstock the few i have a picture of health they outwintered best of all breeds on par with norwegian red.Now the downside why they never caught on the ones i have are extremely wild.They may have high scc as cows as in nz they dont select heavily they will have high solids but the udders on bf might be better.Would you not consider a small high fertlity holstein at least that way you will have higher health traits better udders more milk better temprament.ALso beware theres some jersey backbreeding in alot of nz bulls .One bull i used on jersey cows a few calves came like jerseys turned out he was 1 16th jersey despite in the friesian section of catalogue.It was in the small print.

The wildness thing maybe a bull trait rather than a breed one. Ours are quiet and curious boardering on over friendly at times.

 

[Llmmm]

The wildness thing maybe a bull trait rather than a breed one. Ours are quiet and curious boardering on over friendly at times.

I only have a few so yes it could be the bulls i used how do find them for feet and scc

 

[Holsteinfriesian90]

How do you find crossing over and back with hols and bf do you find that after first cross they turn out like hols or bf i personally think a small strong high fertile hol can only be good on a bf and add milk and improve udders while the bf maintains strength

I do like the Holstein friesian cross just wonder sometimes if we would be better off using all friesian. Yeh some do turn out more Holstein which is something we wanted to get away from.

 

[Llmmm]

I do like the Holstein friesian cross just wonder sometimes if we would be better off using all friesian. Yeh some do turn out more Holstein which is something we wanted to get away from.

Yes i tried this some years ago and while they were all fairly good cows it was the first cross which out performed and outlasted this is the biggest problem with cross breeding after the first cross with the first or second breeds there seems to be little advantage over pure breeds.Ive seriously looked at nz friesian but type and scc has put me off now i could be wrong cus i have never milked them.

 

[Holsteinfriesian90]

Yes i tried this some years ago and while they were all fairly good cows it was the first cross which out performed and outlasted this is the biggest problem with cross breeding after the first cross with the first or second breeds there seems to be little advantage over pure breeds.Ive seriously looked at nz friesian but type and scc has put me off now i could be wrong cus i have never milked them.

You tried any Irish friesian?

 

[Llmmm]

Yes a complete and utter disaster have10 first cross jerseys irish friesian from the top ebi bulls.2 are about to dry themselves off after 3 months calved.The rest are bad tempered with very poor udder slow milkers poorly shaped feet.The good points they have exceptionally good fertlity and the 8 that do milk are yielding 24 to 28 ltrs as heifers and holding condition well.Id far rather nz fr at least in new zealand they go out and inspect 100 daughters and score them for all traits before there exported the irish just use the foreign figures no one inspects the grazing bulls unless there in a holstein herd being classified which few are.

 

[lazy farmer]

I only have a few so yes it could be the bulls i used how do find them for feet and scc

No issues with feet. Though I loath lame cows soo much nothing gets a chance to go lame. So perhaps I’m not the best person to ask!
SSC are fine too we run around 14 cases per 100 cows very few cases after June. . Our cubicle manage through the dry cow period Needs work.

 

[Llmmm]

No issues with feet. Though I loath lame cows soo much nothing gets a chance to go lame. So perhaps I’m not the best person to ask!
SSC are fine too we run around 14 cases per 100 cows very few cases after June. . Our cubicle manage through the dry cow period Needs work.

What sort of yields are you getting how heavy are your nz friesian