Overum ploughs

[daveydiesel1]

Lookin for owner/operator opinion on a overum plough. Any1 any experience of the xl plasric bodies? Was told stuf will not stick to them at all,betr than slatted apparently? What are they like for wear? I live in co antrim and fields round here can have a few different types of clay which can be hard to get the plough to run clean. Also am not wantin another thread of buy lemken kverneland kuhn its just overum am wantin opinions about

 

[Exfarmer]

I seem to remember plastic bodies being touted 20 years ago, but think most people found where rates were too high except on a very few soils. I guess they would be good on organic soils but suspect if you have any amount of sand or flint, they they would not have a great life

 

[Bury the Trash]

Cant beat slats really.

 

[milton-95]

Been ploughing with a 5 furrow newholland./ overum fot the last week or so and it makes an nice job and found it nice and easy to keep straight, hydraulic reset is good too, found it pulled up less stones than a spring reset plough, but I did have a leg come out of place in a rocky feild, was an easy sort though ..... One thing I really didn't like was the skimmers, they just wouldn't flow properly, chocked up at the slightest thing and was never happy with how they were burying although the owner had welded old skimmer point on to the new ones which probably didn't help things.... No idea on the plastic board though

 

[quattro]

Sold loads of overums but no experience of plastic boards

 

[daveydiesel1]

I seem to remember plastic bodies being touted 20 years ago, but think most people found where rates were too high except on a very few soils. I guess they would be good on organic soils but suspect if you have any amount of sand or flint, they they would not have a great life

No sand or flint here so that wouldnt be a problem

 

[daveydiesel1]

Cant beat slats really.

Problem with slats is they break the ground up to much. Now normally speakin thats a good thing but if it rains heavy after ploughin it leaves it weter than if normal boards

 

[Bury the Trash]

Been ploughing with a 5 furrow newholland./ overum fot the last week or so and it makes an nice job and found it nice and easy to keep straight, hydraulic reset is good too, found it pulled up less stones than a spring reset plough, but I did have a leg come out of place in a rocky feild, was an easy sort though ..... One thing I really didn't like was the skimmers, they just wouldn't flow properly, chocked up at the slightest thing and was never happy with how they were burying although the owner had welded old skimmer point on to the new ones which probably didn't help things.... No idea on the plastic board though

Yes those skims ( a problem on other makes as well) need to work at a more shallow angle, to work with the board , not agaisnt it.

they need to be turned to an angle tvats similar to the angle of the early part or throat of the mouldboard ie nearly parallel with it generally and extended bits of cutting edge need to be added, (by welding on but on the edge to' blend' properly with the current skin tip, not over lapped or on top of like those are welded on

 

[sh40]

what price are the xl boards?

 

[Alwaysinit]

I got a non-genuine board there last month and paid £108, don't think there was alot of difference in price between non and genuine.

 

[milton-95]

Yes those skims ( a problem on other makes as well) need to work at a more shallow angle, to work with the board , not agaisnt it.

they need to be turned to an angle tvats similar to the angle of the early part or throat of the mouldboard ie nearly parallel with it generally and extended bits of cutting edge need to be added, (by welding on but on the edge to' blend' properly with the current skin tip, not over lapped or on top of like those are welded on

That was what I'd thought to, the skimmer just wasn't taking off a wide enough bit off the surface and if there was a longer stubble or grassy bit it would show up between the furrows no matter how shollow or deep I set the skimmers.

 

[daveydiesel1]

I got a non-genuine board there last month and paid £108, don't think there was alot of difference in price between non and genuine.

Why buy non genuine if its near same price?

 

[daveydiesel1]

That was what I'd thought to, the skimmer just wasn't taking off a wide enough bit off the surface and if there was a longer stubble or grassy bit it would show up between the furrows no matter how shollow or deep I set the skimmers.

Have any experience of coverboards? Mate had a krone plough way them. They turned tge trash down nicely but never blocked even when ploughin stuf way rushes growin in it

 

[Cowabunga]

The skimmers shown in the photo can't be angled by twisting. They can only be adjusted fore and aft and in and out and up and down. The fore and aft is easy and reliable, because they just clamp onto the horizontal main legs. The up and down and in and out is more problematic, because the leg that holds the frog is just a flat bar that slots into an oblong box section where there is a small steel rod welded inside. The leg sits on this bar and there are adjusting bolts above and below that pivot point that just rocks the leg so that it pushes the skim in and out. To adjust the height, either one or both bolts need to be slackened enough to allow the leg to slide inside the box, one side of which is normally jammed by the bolts against the pivot rod. It really isn't that easy to adjust and in tough going, difficult to maintain the precise adjustment initially set.
It just isn't the best skimmer setup out there. However it does give slightly more adjustment flexibility than, say, the Kuhn design. Personally, in a perfect world [which this obviously isn't], I'd have the XL mouldboards on a Kuhn plough.

 

[Boohoo]

Have any experience of coverboards? Mate had a krone plough way them. They turned tge trash down nicely but never blocked even when ploughin stuf way rushes growin in it

Trashboards? I tried some on a Kverneland. They were alright in stubble and didn't block as quickly as skimmers but useless in ancient grass.

 

[davidroberts30]

Anything is adjustable with heat?

 

[daveydiesel1]

Trashboards? I tried some on a Kverneland. They were alright in stubble and didn't block as quickly as skimmers but useless in ancient grass.

Yes overum calls them coverboards thats just why i called them that. I just hate when a plough blocks or doesnt run clean and i have to get outa the tractor often to sort it. Am not buyin a plough atm but just studyin up so as i get the best machine suited to runnin clean

 

[Cowabunga]

Yes overum calls them coverboards thats just why i called them that. I just hate when a plough blocks or doesnt run clean and i have to get outa the tractor often to sort it. Am not buyin a plough atm but just studyin up so as i get the best machine suited to runnin clean

Most brands offer several different models. The trick is to buy the one that suits your conditions. The most important difference is the point to point clearance, which on a fixed furrow width, makes a marked difference to the length of the plough and the size of beam required to carry it and to its blockage potential. Also whether you need disc coulters for every mouldboard, or just the back, or none at all. Covered skimmers and trashboards. What design mouldboards suits, depending on soil and desired depth of ploughing and draught suitable for the tractor pulling it and the terrain.
Lots to consider when buying the ideal plough.

 

[Boohoo]

Yes overum calls them coverboards thats just why i called them that. I just hate when a plough blocks or doesnt run clean and i have to get outa the tractor often to sort it. Am not buyin a plough atm but just studyin up so as i get the best machine suited to runnin clean

Didn't know they called them that. Most modern ploughs should be long enough to avoid blocking unless you're in amongst tree roots or trying to plough down a mountain of rubbish that never gets cut or grazed. Some soils will stick whatever you do, I've seen match ploughs with boards like mirrors pushing soil instead of turning it. Don't know if Overum make flush points but I tried some on a Kverneland and they definitely helped to keep the boards clean. With a standard, reversible point in soils that stick, the soil build up starts behind the point.

 

[Cowabunga]

Didn't know they called them that. Most modern ploughs should be long enough to avoid blocking unless you're in amongst tree roots or trying to plough down a mountain of rubbish that never gets cut or grazed. Some soils will stick whatever you do, I've seen match ploughs with boards like mirrors pushing soil instead of turning it. Don't know if Overum make flush points but I tried some on a Kverneland and they definitely helped to keep the boards clean. With a standard, reversible point in soils that stick, the soil build up starts behind the point.

I don't think they offer flush points with the XL mouldboards, or not that I've noticed. They did offer them with the Fiskars type bodies though. Not that I'd want those.
Come to think of it, some of the Overums that were sold as MF ploughs had the option but I'm not sure whether it was in conjunction with XL mouldboards or something else. They may have even fitted Fiskars mouldboard design on them but something tells me they were XL with a different share and possibly frog for flush points. Just can't remember in that much detail. It's a long time since I thought of such things.