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Is that 3.1 degrees9.30am today ☀ View attachment 944846
Is that 3.1 degrees9.30am today ☀ View attachment 944846
Cheap venison burgers. Every cloud, eh?Hot to trot Sid.
Send a bit of rain over if you want some heat!
View attachment 944852Nice day for chasing deer about in my Mercedes
Venison is on it's arrse at the moment as it relies on the restaurant trade, dropped over $6/kg from last year! So no fancy aeroplanes over the deer farms this year. Bit of 0-9-0 and minerals with heaps of copper for the deer
Because his overheads were too high .Just started read 'Dirt to soil' by Gabe Brown and came across this quote: "I have never but butchered a beef animal and found a gizzard inside. So I asked myself, why am I feeding these animals grain?"
Cough: subsidy coughJust started read 'Dirt to soil' by Gabe Brown and came across this quote: "I have never but butchered a beef animal and found a gizzard inside. So I asked myself, why am I feeding these animals grain?"
Isn't corn just grass ?Just started read 'Dirt to soil' by Gabe Brown and came across this quote: "I have never but butchered a beef animal and found a gizzard inside. So I asked myself, why am I feeding these animals grain?"
True enough. But that's very different to ad-lib barley.Isn't corn just grass ?
would the animals never eat grass that has seeded ?
Originally, yes. There are increasing differences now though and, in any case, grass seeds would be extremely unlikely to naturally form more than a few % of intake.Isn't corn just grass ?
would the animals never eat grass that has seeded ?
Yep I know it would only be a small % and its been bred away from the original [as grass has] but to say that cattle/sheep and the like don't eat seeds apart from when offered as a concentrate is wrong cos they do, allsorts of seeds from grass to acornsOriginally, yes. There are increasing differences now though and, in any case, grass seeds would be extremely unlikely to naturally form more than a few % of intake.
Also be careful of farmers from other continents talking about feeding corn as some of them will mean maize, a completely different plant group.
And you think things are bad there?Hot to trot Sid.
Send a bit of rain over if you want some heat!
View attachment 944852Nice day for chasing deer about in my Mercedes
Venison is on it's arrse at the moment as it relies on the restaurant trade, dropped over $6/kg from last year! So no fancy aeroplanes over the deer farms this year. Bit of 0-9-0 and minerals with heaps of copper for the deer
I'm not sure organic does necessarily taste any differentI am assuming that the PFLA are promoting grass only fed meat, not just for any so-called environmental benefits, but because of its taste too.
Taste is an interesting point to me. There is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that what any animal eats will affect the taste of its meat.... and milk!
One of the arguments the Soil Assn. made was that organic food tastes better!
Well, it might taste different, but it is misleading that “different” can often at first, seem better.
If we are used to eating the same thing over and over again, when we try something different, we can be fooled into thinking it tastes better!
This was highlighted to me a few years ago when I went to a restaurant and chose an Australian grain-fed Steak. By which it meant grain-only, no grass.
I tasted absolutely great to me!
But this is because it was different to the beef I would normally eat.
Two farmers close to me (one is actually our tenant) grow beef in entirely different ways.
One (the tenant) grow Dexters fed entirely on grass and clover Haylage.
The other buys in stores, mostly Angus or Hereford X’s with Lims, Belgian Blues etc and feeds them almost entirely on byproducts, such as bread, broken and out of date biscuits and sweets (including chocolate ones!) carrots/parsnips and sometimes a bit of barley.
Both taste excellent, but quite different.
TBH, I can only eat the Dexter beef occasionally, as it is too rich! For special occasions, is a treat.
Grass and Silage/Haylage fed Non-Dexter would to me be more appropriate.
I’d prefer an Angus or Hereford X’d with something else. (Angus X Welsh Black - wow!!!!)
However, we should not confuse tasting better with tasting different, until we have got used to eating it over and over again.
Now that (taste and texture) is something many consumers WILL pay extra for. Its not part of the corporate meat marketing paradigm in the EU though.I'm not sure organic does necessarily taste any different
The Aussie's have a meat taste grid I believe and that is a sensible move forward
You raise a very interesting point and one on which I have argued about with the Soil Assn., being:I'm not sure organic does necessarily taste any different
The Aussie's have a meat taste grid I believe and that is a sensible move forward
Now that (taste and texture) is something many consumers WILL pay extra for. Its not part of the corporate meat marketing paradigm in the EU though.
Ok, Uk grid. Do any European countries use a taste based price system either?No, it’s something a FEW consumers will pay extra for.
I’m not sure how you can blame the EU for it though.
Ok, Uk grid. Do any European countries use a taste based price system either?
And what ends up best on the Aussie grid how do they work that ?I'm not sure organic does necessarily taste any different
The Aussie's have a meat taste grid I believe and that is a sensible move forward