Peas and Barley - Redshank

[Sheep]

Hello,

I've got a field of peas and Barley wholecrop, relatively late drilled and it is being flooded by Redshank. Now as far as I'm aware there is no chemistry that will kill Redshank without obliterating the peas, am I correct in that thinking?

See attached photos.

The barley is motoring quite well, peas less so, Redshank is growing the best

What are my options here?

I'm thinking mechanical weeding with an einbock Harrow, leaving it or grazing it and grassing it down.

 

[Sheep]

And part of the field where the peas haven't come well at all (too much compaction).


Happy to trial anything, it's only a small field as a trial.

 

[Still Farming]

Curse of spring crops.
No pre or post emergence sprays was there??
Harrow possibly in rows?
Have you fertilised heavy as corn may head and push on faster.

 

[glasshouse]

Hello,

I've got a field of peas and Barley wholecrop, relatively late drilled and it is being flooded by Redshank. Now as far as I'm aware there is no chemistry that will kill Redshank without obliterating the peas, am I correct in that thinking?

See attached photos.

The barley is motoring quite well, peas less so, Redshank is growing the best

What are my options here?

I'm thinking mechanical weeding with an einbock Harrow, leaving it or grazing it and grassing it down.

Looks ok to me
Far too late for harrow

 

[Bob the beef]

My seed guy says there is a decent amount of protein in redshank so will add a but to the wholecrop

 

[Sheep]

Curse of spring crops.
No pre or post emergence sprays was there??
Harrow possibly in rows?
Have you fertilised heavy as corn may head and push on faster.

No N on yet other than 20t/acre of muck. No pre or post emergence sprays. Au naturale

My seed guy says there is a decent amount of protein in redshank so will add a but to the wholecrop

That's good to hear haha.


Thanks chaps.

 

[thorpe]

No N on yet other than 20t/acre of muck. No pre or post emergence sprays. Au naturale

That's good to hear haha.


Thanks chaps.

bale it wrap it forget it , job done!

 

[ISCO]

We have similar problem.in.a herbal ley which is too young to graze just yet. Would topping help kill the redshank in this situation?

 

[glasshouse]

bale it wrap it forget it , job done!

No no no
Never wrap wholecrop unless you know the pied piper.
Just wholecrop it into the pit
Or combine it

 

[neilo]

No no no
Never wrap wholecrop unless you know the pied piper.
Just wholecrop it into the pit
Or combine it

It’ll need cutting long before it’s ‘wholecrop’ with grain it it, or the weeds will be rubbish. Cut it earlier, as an ‘arable silage’ and it’ll be ok in bales as there’s nothing to attract rats.

 

[neilo]

My seed guy says there is a decent amount of protein in redshank so will add a but to the wholecrop

I baled some Westerwolds/RC that was full of redshank & fathen last year, cut early to clean it up. We got 4 bales/ac of 11.8 ME and 15% CP. Sheep went mad for it and regrowth was clean.

The OP’s crop will need cutting earlier than planned, or the weeds will have little feed value. It will just be a salvage job, but allowance early entry into another crop.

 

[JMTHORNLEY]

I feel for you, your far more optimistic regarding redshank than I am. I've had three crops decimated in one field by redshank. First two were a turnip crop and then a grass, all sprayed out each time so the seed bank must be huge. This last time of turning it over has seen far less germinate though I must say.

 

[Sheep]

Thanks chaps.

No issue with cutting whenever, it'll be going straight into the pit.

Will N help my cause any? Went fairly heavy with the muck in the hope that it would keep everything motoring until the peas started to fix N. Happy to apply some now though.

Looks like I'll chance it another few weeks, if the worst came to worst, I'll graze it, cultivate it and grass it down.

 

[valtraman]

bale it wrap it forget it , job done!

I wouldn’t do this. We baled a field for a man last year and was a disaster . That redshank holds so much moisture even when u think it’s okay the time it went through baler then onto wrapper on fusion baler the juice getting squeezed out the bales was like soap and wouldn’t turn the bale on wrapper ! Ended up giving up , scattering rows out and left for days until drier ! Bales would be sh!t

 

[DaveGrohl]

Just call it regenerative

I’ll get me coat.